GM defeated by a 1500. Um. WHAT?!?!?!

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Thats great! I need to learn this opening.

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I do feel ike it's kinda cruel to have our grandmasters NEED to win every game against amateurs. Cobi Bryant could occasionally lose a game of PIG to a kid and I wouldn't mind that much. However, from what I hear this Browne guy is a jerk (I think he won the U.S. championship a half dozen times) so I like making fun of his loss. Cool

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padman wrote:

Wow, how happy would you be to pull that one off! Is that the Fishing Pole Attack? Or is that something more specific?


It's the Berlin Defense: Fishing Pole Variation. Since it's played by black it can't really be called an "attack". And honestly, you aren't really attacking much, you're just going fishing Cool. I went into some more detail in a blog post I have. You can click on my name and then go check that out if you're that interested :)

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because simul games are never rated, do you think a GM would ever get paid to lose a game?

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Black's 5th move to h5 was an excellent tactical move.  I guess the GM was not aware of its sweeping effect.  White had a chance to capture it and at least solidify its defence of his kingside.

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Browne once said, in the mid 70s as I recall, "I understand chess as well as Fischer, as far as I'm concerned."

I don't think so. A very good player but too much bluster. He failed terribly in every Interzonal he entered as the US representative.

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bingo_gambit wrote:

Black's 5th move to h5 was an excellent tactical move.  I guess the GM was not aware of its sweeping effect.  White had a chance to capture it and at least solidify its defence of his kingside.


It's ridiculous to suggest that a veteran GM doesn't understand the ideas behind 5. ... h5. The same tactical trick is well-known from several other openings.

White appears to have an excellent game even after snapping off the bishop with 10. hxg4. He just needs to close lines with 11. Bg5 or 11. Ng5 instead of ignoring the threat against his king. I wonder what he overlooked?

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That knight on d4 is so powerful but what about, instead of 17. exd6+ 

17. BxP(d5), Qh3 18. BxP(f3), NxB+ 19. QxN preventing mate.

But maybe: 17. BxP, Ne2+ 18. RxN, PxR 19. QxP, but white still can't escape.

Hope this makes sense as I haven't used an analysis board or physical board.

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well this jus provez that hey, GM'z are "jus az vulnernable to lose to a

competitor wit a unlikely rating" az wit everyone else. browne

probably waz a great chess-boxer, but there are timez that when he

 makez 1 WRONG move n down comez hiz piecez(jus like that diagram)

so TO ALL YA'LL GM'Z N OTHER MASTERZ BEWARE!!! lol Cool

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Yeah, this was a simul.  I never heard Brown was a jerk, but whatever  Tongue out

Judit Polgar once lost a one on one tournament game to a 1700 player.

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orangehonda wrote:

Yeah, this was a simul.  I never heard Brown was a jerk, but whatever 

Judit Polgar once lost a one on one tournament game to a 1700 player.


Two things.

1. You guys are right, it's not fair to call him a "jerk". I've just heard that he can sometimes be very unsportsmanlike when faced with defeat.

2. Is that game with Judit Polgar in a database? It'd be fun to look at it.

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The guy probably had had a couple of gins when he dropped this game, generally they are polite enough to draw with the guy paying their fee.

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brown never smiles

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Haha, very nice pictures :). Apparently he got all crumpled up and angry-looking during this game Cool

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Let's be fair about the whole thing though, there's no way that Black's play is typically 1500. Does anyone know anything about the Black player? was it an underrated kid or something?

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PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:

Let's be fair about the whole thing though, there's no way that Black's play is typically 1500. Does anyone know anything about the Black player? was it an underrated kid or something?


I believe he was in his 20s or 30s... But he didn't always play the correct move, many of which seemed incredibly obvious to me as well as a few others here.

Also, the GM blundered epicly in a Simultaneous exhibition. The other guy had more time to think about it, and once he had a tiny advantage and the GM in an uncomforable position, it couldn't have been that hard. That's what's great about fishing pole openings, its guarenteed to take a more experienced player out of book FAST.

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now thats unexpected

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jpd303 wrote:

brown never smiles


 I've got a picture him giving a thumbs up...does that count?

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Wasn't he famous for having a really hot girlfriend, always sitting right behind him, distracting his opponents?