How long does it noarmally take for a players rating to hit the 2000 mark

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kclemens

One of the most common misconceptions that I see or hear about in chess is the idea that there is a direct relationship between time spent practicing and improvement in terms of rating. People think that if they practice an hour a day for a certain time, they will improve from 1200 to 1300, and if they practice three hours a day, they will improve to 1500 or 1600... This is very far from the truth. I'm a bit below 1700 in real life, and I have to accept that there are seven-year-olds who have only played seriously for a few months that have easily surpassed my rating despite the fact that I've been taking tournament chess pretty seriously for almost two years now.

There are people who work for decades at chess and just can't get past a certain level, whether it's 1200, 1600, or 1999. And there are whiz kids who break 2000 as easily as I walk into a grocery store. The point is that the OP's question has no answer. Sometimes it's a very short time, sometimes a player finally breaks 2000 after many years, and most people never make it to expert at all. I can do tactics trainer and review games until I'm exhausted every day for months or years and still get crushed by a first grader whose mom ties his shoes for him. That's just the way chess is.

Chessmentor2
kclemens wrote:

One of the most common misconceptions that I see or hear about in chess is the idea that there is a direct relationship between time spent practicing and improvement in terms of rating. People think that if they practice an hour a day for a certain time, they will improve from 1200 to 1300, and if they practice three hours a day, they will improve to 1500 or 1600... This is very far from the truth. I'm a bit below 1700 in real life, and I have to accept that there are seven-year-olds who have only played seriously for a few months that have easily surpassed my rating despite the fact that I've been taking tournament chess pretty seriously for almost two years now.

There are people who work for decades at chess and just can't get past a certain level, whether it's 1200, 1600, or 1999. And there are whiz kids who break 2000 as easily as I walk into a grocery store. The point is that the OP's question has no answer. Sometimes it's a very short time, sometimes a player finally breaks 2000 after many years, and most people never make it to expert at all. I can do tactics trainer and review games until I'm exhausted every day for months or years and still get crushed by a first grader whose mom ties his shoes for him. That's just the way chess is.

Excellent post, I couldn't agree more. It's a bitter truth that mental acuity, natural talent and IQ play a gigantic role here. The fact is, an elementary school kid with genius level intellect and an interest for chess will beat everyone at my local chess club blindfolded, even if the players here have been at the game for decades.

Look at this player for example. http://www.chess.com/members/view/krstulov_alex

He is 7 years old and already a titled Fide Master. Most people in the world can study for a time longer than he has been alive, and they wont even break the 2000, barrier over the board or online.

The fact is, the mental properties of that kid surpass 99,999% of the population. That is what matters, not the fact that he is getting chess tutoring, reading chess books or studying the game for X hours a day.

I will,with great probability never be as skilled as Alex Krstulov in chess no matter how much I study or how many hours a day I do it. And we are talking about a kid here who is barely old enough to watch Pokemon.

PatZerblunder
Zobral wrote:

I'm sixty, around 1500 here (got as high as 1560..). In ICC, almost 1800. I started playing 35 years ago, never giving chess a structured attention. Yes, lots of funread books and unused software..

And lots of love for the game !

2000 would be nice but..for me impossible. But a nice dream to dream of..

Go, Corinthians !!

Very sobering response and also heartwarming. I have a few friends that have achieved and surpassed that mark. Very accomplished players. They got there complimenting their talent with hard work and love for the game. You need a lot of dedication and/or spare time to get there. Out of the millions of players, only a very small fraction get there.

 

Cheers,

yureesystem

There is misconception, most players don't know how to study chess; they study too much opening, don't work on their tactics and especially endgame and middlegame concepts and strategy. Most players stay low rated because lack of knowledge and rarely studying; they prefer to play hundreds of blitz games instead of studying chess. You see lower players breaking opening principles and not using the correct plan in a pawn structure, mainly it is all kingside attack or exchanging pieces, and normally exchanging the wrong piece. A lack understanding of minor piece, when is the bishop strong or weak, going to into an endgame with the knight against a strong bishop, and wondering why they lost. One the biggest mistake is exchanging the wrong piece and poor understanding of the position. All this can be improve by studying chess books, not youtube and video; book impart valuable knowledge and it painful and hard work; youtube and video is just a lazy chess player way to acquire knowledge, and won't happen. I never met a chess player who became an expert through youtube and video.

Till_98

yureesystem: completly right, but you were only talking about exceptions! Is it normal for a 2200 to beat a Grandmaster? Is it normal for you to draw a 2480 rated player? I guess the answer is easy. 

You definetely have a point but you have to see it more on average. I checked more than 100 American players on this site, including all rating levels, and it was really clear to see that in at least 90% of all cases the players rating was much lower on chess.com than their Uscf rating. I did the same with some fide rated players and it turned out that the ratings are much more equal. Me as an example: fide around 2100, blitz rating on this site=2100. Of course thats just one example but I guess you got my point. Cheers, Till

yureesystem
  • Till_98 wrote:

    yureesystem: completly right, but you were only talking about exceptions! Is it normal for a 2200 to beat a Grandmaster? Is it normal for you to draw a 2480 rated player? I guess the answer is easy.

    You definetely have a point but you have to see it more on average. I checked more than 100 American players on this site, including all rating levels, and it was really clear to see that in at least 90% of all cases the players rating was much lower on chess.com than their Uscf rating. I did the same with some fide rated players and it turned out that the ratings are much more equal. Me as an example: fide around 2100, blitz rating on this site=2100. Of course thats just one example but I guess you got my point. Cheers, Till

 

 

 

Till_98, you make some interesting points. No otb expert or master will always beat a grandmaster, but it happens. I believe grandmaster becomes complacent or overconfidence and loses to an expert. In my chess club there are experts who beat a grandmaster, two are American and one foreign, these games were otb tournaments with regular time control.To beat a grandmaster you have to have good chess understanding, I personal never beat a grandmaster or international master but beat many masters and still I am a expert, so there is some lack knowledege. I like your example, yes being able to have your blitz rating the same as a your otb rating is good thing but if expert is not able to do this, is he any less of a player. The question is this, to become an uscf expert is extremely hard and very few players arrive at this level; even low rated foreign players coming to America can't attain this title. I play against FIDE 1900, for me they are like 1900 uscf, they are beatable. I so noticed FIDE 1900 and they play like 1900 uscf, they lack the knowledge of uscf expert, I read some the comments in this chess.com several players of 1900 FIDE, they lack expert knowledge and some their opening understanding is poor and endgame technique bad. Some of my chess knowledege deficiency can be improve, I can spot them and work out a training program to eliminate them; one them is to get better in tactics, I not talking about simple tactic but more advance tactics and certain pawn structure understanding needs to work on and getting better in the endgame. Some of my personal training program I can eliminate some of deficiencies and with these improvement my rating will be climbing higher.

 I also noticed playing against otb expect in blitz, combination need to be at least five or more move deep, otherwise they see three mover and can avoid it.

yureesystem

To answer your question, it will probably take five to six year to reach expert with hard studying if have you no talent. The reason most players don't improve is lack of studying. I stop improving because I stop studying chess seriously; doing five tactic trainer problems a day is not serious effort improving your chess abilities and a lot players don't even do that. 

rowsweep

who cares

Yukta45
DrCheckevertim wrote:

For most people it takes never.

For the minority of chess players who hit the mark, it typically takes between 1 year and 50 years.

That most definetely is not true

I got to 1000 from 400 in 2 weeks

Jenium
Yukta45 wrote:
DrCheckevertim wrote:

For most people it takes never.

For the minority of chess players who hit the mark, it typically takes between 1 year and 50 years.

That most definetely is not true

I got to 1000 from 400 in 2 weeks

Well, let's talk again in 2 weeks and see if you are 2000 by then.

Yukta45

Okay

Yukta45

Shouldn't be hard

 

Jenium

:-)

chesslearn12345

started chess when i was 11, about 2 1/2 years back. now i am almost 14 , so i think about 2 years from beginner to 2000

Gabberl

I'm currently a 800 player and my goal is to reach 1000 in 1 year and I think I'm about to achieve it so I assume that you can gain 1000 in 1 year. I'm not sure if it's always true since low ELO chess is easier than 1000+ chess and maybe you improve slower when you're 1000+ so I think it takes about 2.5 or 3 years?

marqumax

Took me intesive 2.5 years to reach 2000 FIDE

sndeww

It took me 60% of the time I’ve been alive to reach 2000 USCF. 😁

TCongPham

I got 2000 1 year ago, it tooks 1+ year, then i just quit chess 1 year and now my rating is 19xx =(

Kowarenai

it varies as many have said over the years, for me specifically in my old years it only took me one full year of chess during the lockdown to pass 2000 and i was extremely happy about it but then lost the rating very easily. i think if someone is just crazy and super dedicated to chess they could reach it in under a year, maybe even a few months but it depends on what you do to improve and if your skill can actually improve cause for 2000 you have to know tactics and calculate

GM_MEXICO

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