Is chess a sport?

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Is chess a sport?
 
Please allow me to lay this debate to rest finally. Chess is a sport, and I can prove it.
 
There is a society of people known as the Greeks they were/are philosophers. One of their better-known members can be quoted as having stated, "Man, Is the measurer of all things." Before humankind, there was no beginning, and there was no end. It was saved for a divined entity. However, along came man and as the plack on the wall of the Cambridge University unequivocally states, "It becomes necessary for a scientist to speak in a universal language."That in turn, gives us wide latitude in determining the beginning and the end. And so goes the definining moment for systems of all sorts.
 
A sport never existed until such beginning was marked. This is true of all games. A sport does not get its start from thin air. It cannot exist contingent upon an imaginary line that is crossed when a certain amount of physical activity is exerted. That goes for sports like fishing, hunting, poker where very little physical wherewith all is required.
 
A sport becomes a sport when any given activity has attention paid to it coupled with the authors claim that one or a group of participates state they are better than the other. A sport makes a requisite competition. 
 
Any activity that is observed by one or more people who 1) claim I/we can do it better 2) an audience then agrees and adopts rules that become equalizers for fair competition.
 
End of story.
 
In sum, it goes as follows; 1) activity 2) audience 3) winner.
 
So debate too is a sport I claim to have won!
 
Goodbye
Timothy Scott Puente
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Chess is a competition.
Sports are a competition.
Chess is a sport.

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Yes

It is recognized as an official sport by the international Olympic committee.

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26JAY26 wrote:

Chess is a competition.
Sports are a competition.
Chess is a sport.

 

One of the worst syllogisms I've ever seen. Almost bad enough to send me to the dark side.

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TimothyScottPuente wrote:
Is chess a sport?
 
Please allow me to lay this debate to rest finally. Chess is a sport, and I can prove it.
 
There is a society of people known as the Greeks they were/are philosophers. One of their better-known members can be quoted as having stated, "Man, Is the measurer of all things." Before humankind, there was no beginning, and there was no end. It was saved for a divined entity. However, along came man and as the plack on the wall of the Cambridge University unequivocally states, "It becomes necessary for a scientist to speak in a universal language."That in turn, gives us wide latitude in determining the beginning and the end. And so goes the definining moment for systems of all sorts.
 
A sport never existed until such beginning was marked. This is true of all games. A sport does not get its start from thin air. It cannot exist contingent upon an imaginary line that is crossed when a certain amount of physical activity is exerted. That goes for sports like fishing, hunting, poker where very little physical wherewith all is required.
 
A sport becomes a sport when any given activity has attention paid to it coupled with the authors claim that one or a group of participates state they are better than the other. A sport makes a requisite competition. 
 
Any activity that is observed by one or more people who 1) claim I/we can do it better 2) an audience then agrees and adopts rules that become equalizers for fair competition.
 
End of story.
 
In sum, it goes as follows; 1) activity 2) audience 3) winner.
 
So debate too is a sport I claim to have won!
 
Goodbye
Timothy Scott Puente

Hello Timothy. I think that at Cambridge University they would call it a plaque, you know, which is the correct spelling, at least in Cambridge.

<< a group of participates>>  are they almost like participants?

<<Please allow me to lay this debate to rest finally. Chess is a sport, and I can prove it.>>

I wonder if you actually know what a proof is? First, you have to determine which propositions are needed to logically arrive at the desired conclusion as part of a process of factual and logical necessity. So then, you have to establish the irrevocable truth of each of the required propositions and then show how they interdependently demonstrate the proof. I didn't think you knew that, because according to your post, it doesn't look like you do. In fact, I'd suggest you definitely don't. So your story about Greeks, whom you claim are a nation of philosophers, was pointless.

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ACTIVITY, AUDIENCE, WINNER.
A television quiz show? Silly!!

 

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wherewithall, perhaps??

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I'm sorry but I'm starting to think that people who claim that it's a sport are really quite thick, and I'm sure that can't be the case, can it?

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Nope. There are thick folks on both sides.
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I'm not being unfriendly so much as noting that a number of people have claimed to have proven that chess is a sport and then they get all personal and insulting when others don't accept that they've done so. Seems thick to me, anyhow. But maybe there's a psychological reason for it?

 

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You seem to be projecting your own psychological problems onto others.  If you read the thread, you'll see that more than one person on the "sport" side" started making unprovoked and personal attacks on various people they disagreed with. There was also some slightly nasty sexism going on. I've been friendly to people who held different opinions from me but basically when the personal attacks are repeated and go on and on, it's just an invitation to turn a discussion into a bare knuckle fight. On other social media, that's possible and it would be possible to tell you what we think of you. It isn't possible to do that here, so you get away with trolling. I never noticed you make a worthwhile comment so I think I better block you, It's either that or get drawn into your own type of discussion.

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Yes, I did delete that comment before you replied because I realised that I'd already said it, much better. But I do stand by it. It's just that here, I'm not allowed to tell you what you are.

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Well at least we're not arguing about whether Hot Dog Eating should be covered by ESPN

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off with you.

Agreed. Have a safe trip. Give my regards and do tell tales from the Darkside upon your return.

 

Ciao

 

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Optimissed wrote, ladetida!

You should run for public office. You have my vote!

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Many6Packs

That is because ESPN did televise a Hotdog eating contest! It was sponsored by Nathan's

Ciao

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@Optimissed ROFLMAO Projection? You are really hurt by losing a debate. Mechanism hell, you are a nuke!

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Let me quote Mr Kasparov... arguably the best Chess player ever, he said... While Chess contains a quantity of Sport, Science and Psychology, for me, is primarily an Art form. Some of the quote might be a touch different... was from a Ray Keene interview decades back... that was his opinion. 

Why such fierce debate anyway? Sport, Game, Boardgane, Wargame, Hobby, Disease... i regard as a sport, an Olympic sport... but others don't. Somebody once describe Chess as... An excercise in futility. But so are most things.

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TimothyScottPuente wrote:

Many6Packs

That is because ESPN did televise a Hotdog eating contest! It was sponsored by Nathan's

Ciao

 

Well, it seems their standards are pretty low, then.