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AndyClifton
ucanthandlethetruth wrote:

corrijean sometimes I think you represent the only kind of people left in America

Would that that were so...

LudRa95
ucanthandlethetruth wrote:

corrijean sometimes I think you represent the only kind of people left in America

We can at least wish for that being the case.

LudRa95

Why are you using that picture of Mars as your avatar?

AndyClifton

Because it's this actual dude's face from another planet!  An ancient astronaut & everything!

LudRa95

Because I made it and am slightly proud of having made it (this includes the pieces).

LudRa95

My latest answer was a true statement. How is that worse?

AndyClifton

I like your chess set, Ludra.  Of course, it's not Startling Evidence That We Are Not Alone...but I still say it makes for a cool avatar.

LudRa95
ucanthandlethetruth wrote:

further answers above of course. we could be posting so fast they go out of order.

It's not clear who "they" are.

LudRa95

It's true that a lot of scientifical ideas were laughed about during the time of their discovery. But what about all those ideas that were laughed about and ended up being wrong. Surely, those are more numerous.

nameno1had

deep knowledge and calculation makes master seem to be psychic.....

AndyClifton

Then there were all the idea that weren't laughed about and ended up being wrong...

LudRa95

If the "psychic" had sufficient medical education, it may have been able to visually tell if a shoulder is separated.

blueemu
LudRa95 wrote:

It's true that a lot of scientifical ideas were laughed about during the time of their discovery. But what about all those ideas that were laughed about and ended up being wrong. Surely, those are more numerous.

True. They laughed at Einstein, they laughed at Tesla... but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.

nameno1had

intuition certainly exists.....i am not going to waste my time discussing its two sources....

by intuition, without reading the op, i thought an inexperienced player continually stymied by a much stronger player, and kept asking himsefl, how does this guy know what i am thinking in this game ?

i suppose it is possible the op mistook experience and skill for intuition, but if the added dynamic of great intuition was thrown in, it certainly puts a new spin on things.

sapientdust
ucanthandlethetruth wrote:

I wasn't present and didn't even know she went there

If you hadn't have had a problem with one of your shoulders, the psychic would have said "it may be another limb, or perhaps somebody else that is close to you, I'm getting a definite vibe about a physical problem with somebody you know", and the woman would have nearly certainly responded that somebody she knew miraculously did have a physical ailment.

Here's an example of a non-psychic using the well-known techniques of "cold reading" to "read the mind" of a random audience member. See also this video, in which he gets paranormal experts to endorse his skills as a psychic even though he just uses the well-known techniques to fake being psychic. Watch at least the first 10 minutes, during which he goes to Sedona, Arizona, to a world-renowned center that teaches psychics from all over the world, and he convinces their psychic teachers, including a famous psychic who has authored books, that he has strong psychic abilities. None of them appear to suspect that he is using standard techniques that magicians and fake psychics use. This should at least make you much less confident that psychic ability exists, since it is obvious that when people like Derren Brown fake being a psychic, nobody is able to tell the difference, even the so-called expert psychics.

Praxis_Streams

There is a $1,000,000 open challenge to anyone who can actually perform a testable "psychic" feat (google it). No one has won the money.

AndyClifton

Still, it is nevertheless true that, just because someone can fake it, that doesn't necessarily mean that real abilities do not exist.

AndyClifton

Actually, I think that was Xanthippe (cherchez le nag).

sapientdust
AndyClifton wrote:

Still, it is nevertheless true that, just because someone can fake it, that doesn't necessarily mean that real abilities do not exist.

True, but any rational person who observes how easy it is to fake psychic abilities, even to convince world-renowned psychics and paranormal believers, should be more open to the possibility that there is no such thing as psychic ability and much less confident in their belief in such abilities.

sapientdust
ucanthandlethetruth wrote:

I told you, no cues. no preliminary talk to coerce information because I'm well aware of that.

See the videos if you want to see the magician Derren Brown read people with no cues and no preliminary talk. I think you don't want to see how convincing he is, and so you will not watch the videos.