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Ubik42 wrote:
trysts wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

Sure, but simply being unexplained or unidentified doesn't automatically make it aliens.

That's not news to anyone, TheGrobe. It's the details of specific sightings which allows one to propose an alien hypothesis.

An alien hypothesis is perfectly fine, but some go off the rails absent any good evidence. Easily faked videos don't constitute good evidence.

For example, if that "London" video a couple of pages back were real (I even doubt its London, much less London in January), we should have perhaps hundreds of videos all over the city from different angles.

That would be harder to fake.

But one video over a populated city just screams "fake".

I didn't look at the video, but I've read many times of witnesses saying that if they hadn't happened to look in the sky they would have never known a UFO was there. Having no discernible sound is one of the main characteristics of the phenomenon. 

Ubik42
trysts wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
trysts wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:

Videos like those would have been quite convincing decades ago before the easy availibility of CGI. Does it strike anyone as odd that the UFO's chose this point in time to invade - just at the moment when anyone and his mother can create a decent looking fake?

On the other hand, if its on the internets, its got to be true. I heard it on the internets.

It would probably help your understanding if you could imagine that UFOs have been seen for many decades, not just since the Internet.

Yes I am aware of the history - I was a UFO "believer" back in the 70's.

I don't know what a UFO believer is, but I also don't know why you would suggest that UFOs are a recent phenomenon if you knew about their existence before?

 I am sure you will agree that some proportion of youtube videos are consciously faked by video hobbyists - and the easier it is to do, the more of these videos we will get. 

As for the term "UFO believer", being a dumb kid I thought anything in a magazine had to be true, and that the aliens were going to land any day now. My interest was spurred by a strange object I had seen from my backyard when I was maybe 9 or 10, experienced observer that I was.

Ubik42
trysts wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
trysts wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

Sure, but simply being unexplained or unidentified doesn't automatically make it aliens.

That's not news to anyone, TheGrobe. It's the details of specific sightings which allows one to propose an alien hypothesis.

An alien hypothesis is perfectly fine, but some go off the rails absent any good evidence. Easily faked videos don't constitute good evidence.

For example, if that "London" video a couple of pages back were real (I even doubt its London, much less London in January), we should have perhaps hundreds of videos all over the city from different angles.

That would be harder to fake.

But one video over a populated city just screams "fake".

I didn't look at the video, but I've read many times of witnesses saying that if they hadn't happened to look in the sky they would have never known a UFO was there. Having no discernible sound is one of the main characteristics of the phenomenon. 

The problem being, of course, having no sound would also be one of the main characteristics of a faked video by someone.

TheGrobe
trysts wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

Sure, but simply being unexplained or unidentified doesn't automatically make it aliens.

That's not news to anyone, TheGrobe. It's the details of specific sightings which allows one to propose an alien hypothesis.

I struggle with the veracity of eye witness accounts, easily faked or grainy videos and unauthorized memos that were leaked which could also have been easily faked.

I am open to compelling evidence, but I've yet to see anything compelling.

trysts
Ubik42 wrote:
 

The problem being, of course, having no sound would also be one of the main characteristics of a faked video by someone.

No doubt about faked videos being prevalent. How many Osama bin Laden videos were there? 

trysts
TheGrobe wrote:
trysts wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

Sure, but simply being unexplained or unidentified doesn't automatically make it aliens.

That's not news to anyone, TheGrobe. It's the details of specific sightings which allows one to propose an alien hypothesis.

I struggle with the veracity of eye witness accounts, easily faked or grainy videos and unauthorized memos that were leaked which could also have been easily faked.

I am open to compelling evidence, but I've yet to see anything compelling.

I certainly don't discount eyewitness testimony, from crimes being committed to UFO experiences. I'm sure a reasonable mind would defer judgement on the matter of some UFOs being of alien origin without much time spent upon the subject, or without first-hand experience. But witnesses have concluded that it must be alien, because their experience can not be adequately explained in another way.

Trapper4

Did this thread really get this far? Shouldeve posted in it when it first came out.

royalbishop
Trapper4 wrote:

Did this thread really get this far? Shouldeve posted in it when it first came out.

Now they have you and will be taken aboard. Not sure why they picked chess.com threads to do this. They really think they can find intelligent life forms here. We already willingly admitted our intelligence diminishes the longer we are here.

netzach

Alienation of this thread is unfolding right before our eyes!

royalbishop

Scotty i need Warp factor 5.0 in f5 seconds and we only at 2.1!

We are at outpost 933 and that is the only way we will reach the neutral zone at outpost #1000!

pdela

But really, why can't be they of spacecrafts of human origin, we can make all kind of suppositions.

royalbishop
pdela wrote:

But really, why can't be they of spacecrafts of human origin, we can make all kind of suppositions.

They do not want to get Air-Jacked by terrorist. They saw what happen on 9-11!

pdela
pdela wrote:

But really, why can't be they of spacecrafts of human origin, we can make all kind of suppositions.

Suppose there are some high powers who has a secret technology hidden, a kind of masonry, as the Knights of the Holy Grail, whatever... imagination is free. I don't mind people believing in aliens sorrounding the Earth, as far as they recognize is a belief, not supported but plausible reasons but for imaginary and faith

pdela

And wtf the aliens want from us? At most the recipe of the whisky and soda

TheGrobe

You must mean Gin and Tonic.

netzach

When they kidnapped me they all drank Babycham.

trysts

Pdela, for someone who believes in angels, your psuedo-skepticism on the matter of aliens is amusing. It must conflict with your religious beliefs or something?

Irontiger
royalbishop wrote:

Now they have you and will be taken aboard. Not sure why they picked chess.com threads to do this. They really think they can find intelligent life forms here.

pdela
trysts wrote:

Pdela, for someone who believes in angels, your psuedo-skepticism on the matter of aliens is amusing. It must conflict with your religious beliefs or something?

Who told you I belong to any religion?, just cause I don't act as a reversed inquisitor...Innocent...doesn't mean...

pdela
TheGrobe wrote:

You must mean Gin and Tonic.

The recipe for the Gin and Tonic is a no brainer! The name says it all!!!