1. It has to be the same side to move, each time.
2. The draw is not automatic. It has to be claimed or the game continues.
is the same position repeating three times always a draw
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Jul 2, 2018
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As a former USCF Tournament Director, if the same position occurs three times a draw can be CLAIMED by the player ON THE MOVE only IF the same player had the move each time and each piece had all the same possible moves each time including castling and en passant capture.
thamks
hey,
how should i handle the situation, if the opponent does not accept the draw offer after threefold repitition (online chess)?
is it a bad habit to avoid a threefold repitition offer or is it usual practice?
thanks
best
Jul 9, 2018
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newGtown wrote:
hey,
how should i handle the situation, if the opponent does not accept the draw offer after threefold repitition (online chess)?
is it a bad habit to avoid a threefold repitition offer or is it usual practice?
thanks
best
A bit of both, really. I guess the higher rated you are the more important it is to know the answer to that one.
Jul 9, 2018
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#7
And remember it doesn't have to be in a row. If it happened on moves 10, 20, an 30 that would be 3, and you could claim a draw.
thank you all for your answers
newGtown wrote:
If 3fold occurs it is not an offer. It is a claim that if you are making is final and not rejectable.
hey,
how should i handle the situation, if the opponent does not accept the draw offer after threefold repitition (online chess)?
is it a bad habit to avoid a threefold repitition offer or is it usual practice?
thanks
best
denner90 wrote:
newGtown wrote:
hey,
how should i handle the situation, if the opponent does not accept the draw offer after threefold repitition (online chess)?
is it a bad habit to avoid a threefold repitition offer or is it usual practice?
thanks
best
If 3fold occurs it is not an offer. It is a claim that if you are making is final and not rejectable.
It is rejectable, but:
| 9.1.2.3 | A claim of a draw under Article 9.2 or 9.3 shall be considered to be an offer of a draw. |
In other words, if you make an incorrect claim of draw, then your opponent can point out the fault/s in your claim and keep playing. However, if your opponent wants to accept the draw then the fault/s in your claim of draw are not an excuse for you to take back your word and keep playing.
Now, besides same side to move, same castling rights and en passant, there are additional restrictions on precisely how to claim threefold repetition:
| 9.2.1 | The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by a player having the move, when the same position for at least the third time (not necessarily by a repetition of moves): |
| 9.2.1.1 | is about to appear, if he first writes his move, which cannot be changed, on his scoresheet and declares to the arbiter his intention to make this move, or |
| 9.2.1.2 | has just appeared, and the player claiming the draw has the move. |
Notably, threefold repetition cannot be claimed by a player who, instead of writing the move on scoresheet but not actually making it and then calling arbiter, just makes the move. It is no longer his move. It is his opponent´s decision whether to claim threefold repetition (as of right) or not claim it, keep playing and make a different move from the same position.
What is the etiquette if threefold repetition is on the board and the player not on the move offers draw?
I have a question. If a position repeats three times it should be drawn through threefold repitition. But what if the third time it occurs with the other person to move. The position occurs three times but with a different player to move so it is not the same FEN either. what is the outcome.