Ivanov speaks out!

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jesterville

...yes, all of a sudden his "super powers" seem to have left the chess hall. I was unaware that he was a member of this site at one point.

waffllemaster

From what I saw of his unassisted games he certainly seemed weaker than 2000 to me.  1900 performance rating sounds about right.

Crazychessplaya

Looks like the wizard of Blagoevgrad lost his magick.

SmyslovFan

Where have you seen his games posted, Waffle?

asmund_hammerstad
SmyslovFan wrote:

So far, Ivanov's results in his current tournament suggest that he's not the superman he claims to be. He lost to an FM and drew a ~1900 rated player, scoring 2.5/4 in early going. His performance so far is much more in keeping with someone rated ~2100-2200 than someone who went 10-0 against Houdini and Rybka.

 

That part of the interview must have been a joke. Please don't refer to Ivanov stating that he beat Houdini and Rybka meaning it for real.

AdamRinkleff
asmund_hammerstad wrote

That part of the interview must have been a joke. Please don't refer to Ivanov stating that he beat Houdini and Rybka meaning it for real.

Was it a joke? It sounded to me like he was trying to explain how he got so good.

bigpoison
jesterville wrote:

Technology is great, but in the hands of someone intent on doing harm/fraud, it becomes an even more "powerful" tool than what it was originally designed for. Unfortunately, we are at a juncture in our development where "old" values are disappearing, and the new thinking is "get ahead at any cost". We are becoming so immune to corruption, violence, and fraud that they don't even hold our attention anymore...they have become the norm.

Nah, modern folks ain't that special.  The humanity of today is, probably, much less tolerant of violence than at any time in history.  Corruption and fraud ain't nothin' new, either.

chrispret
bigpoison wrote:
jesterville wrote:

Technology is great, but in the hands of someone intent on doing harm/fraud, it becomes an even more "powerful" tool than what it was originally designed for. Unfortunately, we are at a juncture in our development where "old" values are disappearing, and the new thinking is "get ahead at any cost". We are becoming so immune to corruption, violence, and fraud that they don't even hold our attention anymore...they have become the norm.

Nah, modern folks ain't that special.  The humanity of today is, probably, much less tolerant of violence than at any time in history.  Corruption and fraud ain't nothin' new, either.

Haha, yes, literally stabbing your father in the back (substitute poison etc) is no longer an accepted means of becoming the king.

axhed
bigpoison wrote:

Nah, modern folks ain't that special.  The humanity of today is, probably, much less tolerant of violence than at any time in history.  Corruption and fraud ain't nothin' new, either.

no doubt. when you look at murder per capita rates throughout history, we are so much more likely to die of natural causes these days that it's amazing that anyone (i used to be one) could think these are violent times.

LarEe91

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/crosswords/chess/chess-borislav-ivanovs-performance-is-scrutinized.html?_r=0

After watching Lilov's video and reading this article, it's pretty clear - he played like a human after the live internet streaming was cut out. And got smashed, like he was expected to.

Polar_Bear
asmund_hammerstad wrote:

That part of the interview must have been a joke. Please don't refer to Ivanov stating that he beat Houdini and Rybka meaning it for real.

Cheater Ivanov isn't in position to make jokes. It was very inappropriate.

goldendog

Is there anyone left here that thinks Ivanov just got brilliant for a few games?

kco
goldendog wrote:

Is there anyone left here that thinks Ivanov just got brilliant for a few games?

maybe his hearing aid just got working in time.

waffllemaster
SmyslovFan wrote:

Where have you seen his games posted, Waffle?

Lilov's video shows some regular games of his.  You can tell they're a human because he blunders pawns / pieces and regular stuff like that.

KuzmickiMarek

There are few things:

First is, that it looks like Ivanov cheated.

Second, there is many various ways, he could and can show that he is such good chess player - games in controled circumstances against people or programs, or live analysis, or even some of Ivanov lectures about chess if he would make some, or some live blitzes, or ...

But he, supermegachessgrandmaster if you belive in 'his' games, don't feel to act that way.

Third, there are games which use statistic of performance to rise accusation - for example Bridge if i'm correct. It's not new idea to think about anti-cheater systems.

As for Ivanov, he is done and he knows it.

AdamRinkleff

Well, at least we know he isn't cheating! Lol.

goldendog

Ivanov's latest tournament is over:

Ratingperformance 1942
FIDE rtg +/- -45.2
rusconi

I read many posts, and find them utterly ridicolous. Especially the guys proving that Ivanov cheated.

Let's state the facts:

1. Ivanov has not been banned by the Bulgarian federation for cheating

2. Ivanov has not been banned by FIDE either

3. Ivanov is playing the 35th Bulgaria Open

So everyone has the right to write some absurd posts, but the facts are clear, Ivanov wasn't declared a cheater.

One year from now, the lynching crowd will be completely forgotten, and the documents will just show how good Ivanov played.

SmyslovFan

Rusconi, FIDE and the Bulgarian Chess Federation do not currently have a method for analysing games to determine whether a player cheated. As a result of Ivanov's performance, FIDE is now being asked to come up with a method of detection. Kenneth Regan, an IM and statistician, has written to FIDE to start discussing how to do this. 

Ivanov cheated, that much is clear. The question is whether a statistical analysis alone is enough for FIDE to ban him. This analysis has been good enough in the USCF, and it will probably be good enough for FIDE too.

The fact that a person hasn't been punished for a crime doesn't make him guilty or innnocent.

Crazychessplaya

rusconi wrote:

I read many posts, and find them utterly ridicolous. Especially the guys proving that Ivanov cheated.

Let's state the facts:

1. Ivanov has not been banned by the Bulgarian federation for cheating

2. Ivanov has not been banned by FIDE either

3. Ivanov is playing the 35th Bulgaria Open

So everyone has the right to write some absurd posts, but the facts are clear, Ivanov wasn't declared a cheater.

One year from now, the lynching crowd will be completely forgotten, and the documents will just show how good Ivanov played.

Possibly the dumbest post ever on chess.com. Did you even bother to watch Lilov's video?