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hazenfelts

You can use a word in whatever way you want, the word strategy can be used for anything in context whether it be generally or specifically (the idea of which I think is rubbish, if you use a word you use it specifically for its meaning or connotations).  The whole point of language and the words used in a language is for communication. if I was to express an idea, and in doing so I would need to be specifically using the word strategy it would not need it to refer to competition or war

taots_11

the only right about littleman is he mention about the word evolves.so that means that the origin of this word is in military and let say if this word doesnt evolves you cannot use it in the sentence if the topic of the sentence has no war or competion.and one more thing if you look up to the dictionary the meanig of this word strategy the meaning is plan right? but the meaning of plan is not strategy.so i im right.

hazenfelts

no your basically arguing with the dictionary definition now.

"According to the American Heritage Dictionary there was an Indo-European word root ster that meant “to spread things out.”

I came across this root once before in the podictionary episode on the word street which came about because the Romans built their roads in layers and they called the layers strata.  The strata were called strata because each material was “spread out” before the next one was piled on top.

Strategy didn’t come through Latin though, instead it came through Greek.

That same word root meaning “spread out” was applied to a big group of people who were spread out over an open space.

Sometimes an army was a big group of people spread out over an open space and so the Greek word for army was stratos.

An army needs a commander and the Greek word for a general was strategos.

Of course it’s the general who practices the “science and art of deploying political, economic, psychological, and military force” to achieve his purpose and so that art and science was named after him.  Since he was a strategos the art and science became a strategy."

Your getting quite confused, just because a word has its origins in Greek from the word for a general does not mean it has to be used in a military or competitive way.  It can usually be used in place of the word plan and that does not need competitiveness or military usage.  Oh also if when you looked up plan in the dictionary you bothered to check the synonyms you would find strategy.

Nytik
kurogkug wrote:

the only right about littleman is he mention about the word evolves.so that means that the origin of this word is in military and let say if this word doesnt evolves you cannot use it in the sentence if the topic of the sentence has no war or competion.and one more thing if you look up to the dictionary the meanig of this word strategy the meaning is plan right? but the meaning of plan is not strategy.so i im right.


No... no, you're wrong. Strategy is not just a military word, specific or not. The dictionary clearly states that it doesn't need to be a military term. The dictionary governs what words mean. Therefore, the term strategy is not a military word, merely one which CAN be used in a military sense.

artfizz

There is a somewhat similar discussion taking place over here about a more modern word with a very specific, original meaning; and whether a word that carries so much historical baggage can - or should - be used in any other context.

The main point that kurogkug is attempting to defend, is his contention that the word strategy has some intrinsic and exclusive association with military activity. This is demonstrably false - both in the expression of most of this thread's contributors - and in the overwhelming majority of language references.

Perhaps kurogkug believes that outside the military domain, the word strategy is being used metaphorically. If so, the present-day dictionary definitions do not bear this out.

Contrast this with a word such as symphony, which has several definitions: 
In the musical sense: An extended piece in three or more movements for symphony orchestra.
In the musical sense: An instrumental passage in a vocal or choral composition.
In the musical sense: An instrumental overture or interlude, as in early opera.
In the musical sense: An orchestral concert.
In the general sense: Harmony, especially of sound or color.
In the general sense: Something characterized by a harmonious combination of elements.

If I say: "Fischer and Spassky performed a symphony on the chessboard in their final match", I am clearly speaking metaphorically. Whereas, if I say: "Fischer was supreme in tactics, but Spassky in strategy"; no metaphors, no military alusion.

taots_11

little man i have another question to you.why the meaning of strategy is plan but the meaning of plan is not strategy?.so that means you cannot use the word strategy in the sentence if the topic has no competition.and one more question if some word will not evolve that means i am right.....right?.i wait to your answer.

hazenfelts

words can have many different meanings, one meaning of strategy is plan and one meaning of plan is strategy, it does not mean that they are the only possible definitions of the words or even the only possible uses of the word.  I don't really understand how someone can structure their sentences so poorly and yet try to lecture people on the use and meaning of a word 

chuzzlechamp

financial strategy is more to do with the way the money works not war

Gomer_Pyle

Kurogkug, I think it would help if you read these threads...

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/strategy-and-plan

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-players/strategy

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/why-is-strategically-position-is-very-important-in-chess

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/strategic

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/strategy-and-plan2

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/strategy-and-plan3

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/if-you-know

Gwyllem

You can have a strategy for anything you do regardless of competition.  You can always compete with yourself.

sohowgoodami
Phelon wrote:

what part of life isn't a competition though?


 the terminal part I think!Laughing

furys_cane
kurogkug wrote:

little man i have another question to you.why the meaning of strategy is plan but the meaning of plan is not strategy?.so that means you cannot use the word strategy in the sentence if the topic has no competition.and one more question if some word will not evolve that means i am right.....right?.i wait to your answer.


If strategy means a plan or method of doing something as written somewhere above and plan means a method of doing something as written on dictionary.com, then by the transitive property of equality (if a=b and b=c, then a=c) strategy = plan.

Granted, you are somewhat right that if a word did not evolve, then its meaning would remain the same it was when it was created. The flaw in your argument, however, is that everything evolves with time, from plants, animals, bacteria, to even culture (which includes language). The only way for language to be stagnant is if the language is dead, one of the reasons why latin is used for naming animals because since it is dead, it cannot change and cause confusion between scientists. Just think of a couple of other words whose meanings have changed over time, such as retard and dick.

Retard means to hinder or impede but now adays it is used interchangably with a mentally ill person. Dick, on the other hand, used to mean in Old English "fellow, lad, or man" and became a natural nickname for Richard (Rick => Dick). Dick was also a common name for detectives but it is now a vulgar word for penis.

My point is that language evolves and there is really very little anyone can do about it.

dougvon
edwaxx wrote:

latin makes me hungry...


I am with you edwaxx lets strategerize on how we are going to get some pizza...

taots_11
sohowgoodami wrote:
Phelon wrote:

what part of life isn't a competition though?


 the terminal part I think!


 i think phenon is right,but its not only the terminal part,how about you just chopping some woods ok?,who is your competitor then ha!!?.Yell

taots_11
Phelon wrote:

what part of life isn't a competition though?


how about you just chopping some woods ha?,who is your compitetor then ha!!?Yell

taots_11
DaPharaoh wrote:

That doesn't make much sense, you can use the word strategy with no competition and vise versa. this is true because strategy is not limited to competing with another person. for example: I can make a strategy for reading a book. I am not competing, but planning a way to acomplish my goal.


how about you just chopping some woods ha?,who is your compitetors then ha!!?Yell

-X-

kurogkug uh... I mean easymoney what are doing in this thread. "If You Know" is missing you and you're over here messing around with some other thread.Surprised

taots_11
RDR75 wrote:

kurogkug uh... I mean easymoney what are doing in this thread. "If You Know" is missing you and you're over here messing around with some other thread.


i just miss my origin.

taots_11
pushwood47 wrote:
easymoney10 wrote:
RDR75 wrote:

kurogkug uh... I mean easymoney what are doing in this thread. "If You Know" is missing you and you're over here messing around with some other thread.


i just miss my origin.


Yep, you missed it all right, it is over here:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/strategy-and-plan?cid=5184980#last_comment


thank you.Smile