Lyudmil Tsvetkov

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chesster3145
pretzel2 wrote:

hey tsetkov is this what they taught you in diplomacy school? you just ignore what smerdon said because he didn't say it in the review you are so fond of using to sell your book, and call me a liar for merely cutting and pasting the quote from his blog. do you even understand what the word "lie" means? i would think an actual diplomat would. and all you do for "evidence" is put more games against your home computer up. maybe you don't understand what evidence is, either. to repeat, smerdon said that, he said it on his blog, and i would an apology, and i would like you to explain why we should ignore what he said about the usefulness of your book, while only paying attention to the positive parts of the review you quote. 

He’s not a diplomat and he never has been: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Bulgarian_diplomats

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
Madcaf wrote:
ScootaChess hat geschrieben:

Youre hidden message, which I have pointed out with parentheses, proves without a doubt you are a shill. As I said, you worshippers of technology are only posting to discredit the one who exposed your silicon idols

 

Sorry, I didn't get your sarcasm before. It is sometimess hard if it is written and not verbal. Thank you for the clarification by going way over the top with it, though =D 

I read people here that actually meant what they said when they wrote similar things like you did. On a serious note though people sometimes fail to understand that humans have their strengths in other areas than machines. Especially in chess there are concepts that are way too complex to be programmed into an engine even though people like the book author above put a lot of time improving the numbers by defining centipawn values in different ways in order to make them better. Fortunately humans don't need that because the brain knows more ways than conscious logic to work around a problem. That is why I find it ridiculous to try to impose machine concepts on a human brain as the tables of "The secret of chess" try to do. Why try to make humans machine-like? Those defined values for certain positions help calculating (which is the strength of a computer, that is why there are calculators for complex multiplications and such) but not finding moves the "easy" human way. What the boundaries of neuronal networks on which A0 runs are have yet to be shown, though as they try to emulate a human, not the other way round. Your sarcasm implies that you make the same point, the only one with silicon idols in this thread is the guy who prides himself with competing with silicon based chess players and boasts about his (not yet proven) ability to beat them and tries to think like them but better. Sorry again for being so dense as to not detect your in hindsight obvious sarcasm.

On the contrary, machines handle those very well: http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic_view=threads&p=574014&t=52565

It was ME who made the famous lever concept of Hans Kmoch a success in SF.

ONLY precise values do wrok in SF, and SF is what a scientific test for the validity of my book comes closest to.

How would it be detrimental to a human to know that levers on the 5th and 6th ranks have specific different values?

It is useful, of course.

You should be greatful my book makes learning easier and more precise, and not the other way round.

I am playing SF, but I am playing it in a HUMAN way, my book restores human thought, you want just mechanical shuffling and repetition?

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov

Again, just to mention that I HATE all those threads on me.

They simply DON'T make any sense.

Was not it possible to just stick to the main 'Secret of Chess' thread?

I guess I will be posting only there from now on, though I might answer some questions on other threads.

So many threads really don't make sense.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
DjonniDerevnja wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:

One more draw with a pawn more, where white is actually winning in the end position after Nf2-d1-e3 and f4-f5.

Bad form, what to do?

This is a solid game, but where is the risk, the gambling? When both sides plays rock solid it is difficult to win.  Risky sidelines will probably be punished by stockfish, but could give sharp and interesting chances vs humans.

Currently, I am playing SF. happy.png

OK, let's just ask once more everyone to concentrate on the 'Secret of Chess' thread.

It does not make sense to have so many identical threads.

 

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
SmyslovFan wrote:
pretzel2 wrote:

... then he tries to throw up a cloud of smoke by posting more meaningless games against the computer. 

Yes, there's a definite pattern here. Whenever something hits too close, you see a sudden surge of posts that only serve to obfuscate.

I have nothing to obfuscate, those are the usual games I am posting.

What should I hide, that Smerdon posted a comment?

I simply had not read it until now, but it is a normal comment.

Yes, there are probably better learning books for club players, in terms of easy access to knowledge, but not to ALL the knowledge available in 'The Secret of Chess', because it is available ONLY there.

People could learn probably in an easier way, but NOT the very same things they could leran from my book, as they are present ONLY there.

As simple as that.

I am not afraid of reviews, words or anything.

2 things I am afraid of are LIES and noise.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
chesster3145 wrote:
pretzel2 wrote:

hey tsetkov is this what they taught you in diplomacy school? you just ignore what smerdon said because he didn't say it in the review you are so fond of using to sell your book, and call me a liar for merely cutting and pasting the quote from his blog. do you even understand what the word "lie" means? i would think an actual diplomat would. and all you do for "evidence" is put more games against your home computer up. maybe you don't understand what evidence is, either. to repeat, smerdon said that, he said it on his blog, and i would an apology, and i would like you to explain why we should ignore what he said about the usefulness of your book, while only paying attention to the positive parts of the review you quote. 

He’s not a diplomat and he never has been: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Bulgarian_diplomats

Those are only ambassadors and foreign ministers with pages on Wikipedia. happy.png

I have served for 13 years, from 2000-2013 and got the diplomatic rank of second secretary, if you want to submit an official query about me, you might certainly do so at the Bulgarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs: http://www.mfa.bg/

I was definitely better of as a career diplomat rather than a forum peddler, but I would never have seen the miracles I have on the chess board with SF.

Maybe some day more people will appreciate my sacrifice and the value of my book.

chesster3145
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
chesster3145 wrote:
pretzel2 wrote:

hey tsetkov is this what they taught you in diplomacy school? you just ignore what smerdon said because he didn't say it in the review you are so fond of using to sell your book, and call me a liar for merely cutting and pasting the quote from his blog. do you even understand what the word "lie" means? i would think an actual diplomat would. and all you do for "evidence" is put more games against your home computer up. maybe you don't understand what evidence is, either. to repeat, smerdon said that, he said it on his blog, and i would an apology, and i would like you to explain why we should ignore what he said about the usefulness of your book, while only paying attention to the positive parts of the review you quote. 

He’s not a diplomat and he never has been: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Bulgarian_diplomats

Those are only ambassadors and foreign ministers with pages on Wikipedia.

I have served for 13 years, from 2000-2013 and got the diplomatic rank of second secretary, if you want to submit an official query about me, you might certainly do so at the Bulgarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs: http://www.mfa.bg/

I was definitely better of as a career diplomat rather than a forum peddler, but I would never have seen the miracles I have on the chess board with SF.

Maybe some day more people will appreciate my sacrifice and the value of my book.

Your name is nowhere on that page. I searched "secretary", "second secretary" and "tsvetkov" and found nothing.

chesster3145
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
SmyslovFan wrote:
pretzel2 wrote:

... then he tries to throw up a cloud of smoke by posting more meaningless games against the computer. 

Yes, there's a definite pattern here. Whenever something hits too close, you see a sudden surge of posts that only serve to obfuscate.

I have nothing to obfuscate, those are the usual games I am posting.

What should I hide, that Smerdon posted a comment?

I simply had not read it until now, but it is a normal comment.

Yes, there are probably better learning books for club players, in terms of easy access to knowledge, but not to ALL the knowledge available in 'The Secret of Chess', because it is available ONLY there.

People could learn probably in an easier way, but NOT the very same things they could leran from my book, as they are present ONLY there.

As simple as that.

I am not afraid of reviews, words or anything.

2 things I am afraid of are LIES and noise.

Are you sure about that? I've shown several of your positions to be carbon copies of well-known ideas, and several of your explanations to be rather poor.

stewardjandstewardj
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
Madcaf wrote:

Ok, guys, hello everyone! What an interesting read the thread "The Secret of Chess" and this one were. 

I am seriously shocked right now. What do we have? 

 

- Somebody claiming to be better than anyone that has ever lived in chess

- Somebody whose credential is to beat SF in infinite TC against one Minute because giving SF more time would be a waste of his time, he has to analyze too many positions for his next book.

- Somebody who tells us there were only four/five world champions and neglects the rest because they were weak 

- Somebody who has written the only chess book worth reading in the history of chess

- Somebody who tells us even grandmasters wouldn't understand the book he has written

- Somebody who claims his chess prowess would be worth 3500 ELO

- Somebody who plays not OTB because he would not be able to concentrate when he has to think about his opponent

- Somebody who has excuses for any proposed way to prove his strength and ideas to a potential readership

- Somebody who arrogantly insults people who are sceptical of his claims

- Somebody who does not play  online because he gets distracted by people invisibly watching him and also people online cheat with engines. Also he has no time for that.

- Somebody who claims to beat every engine

- Somebody who claims A0 is weak

 

Best thing is - it is all the same person. People, really? There are two possibilities here to explain all that. This guy is either a very dedicated troll who gets his kick by getting attention or he has very serious mental issues. In both cases it would be best to ban him from these forums. There are inexperienced people actually believing him, they should be protected from lies/delusions whatever those claims are. Maybe by doing that help is provided to him, too. How can I report individual posts to a mod, btw?

 

It is not by chance that your avatar is of the BAD Darth Sidius, rigth?

Lyudmil, what you just said is the definition of ad hominem.

stewardjandstewardj

I agree with Lyudmil (wow, that's a rare thing) on only commenting on 1, maybe 2 forums. I have a busy schedule, and if I want to stay in this discussion, I have to respond to anywhere from 30-100% more notes then if the discussion were limited to a couple of forums.

FBloggs
petrip wrote:
FBloggs wrote:

With enemies like you, who needs friends? LT doesn't even have to create his own threads. You people are going to make him the most famous person in the world.    

But kinda fame that still does not sell books.... 

Given all the criticism of the author and his book in these threads, I don't think the content of the threads helps book sales. But naming threads after the author puts his name out there. A lot of people see the name but don't visit the threads. Name recognition helps.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
chesster3145 wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
chesster3145 wrote:
pretzel2 wrote:

hey tsetkov is this what they taught you in diplomacy school? you just ignore what smerdon said because he didn't say it in the review you are so fond of using to sell your book, and call me a liar for merely cutting and pasting the quote from his blog. do you even understand what the word "lie" means? i would think an actual diplomat would. and all you do for "evidence" is put more games against your home computer up. maybe you don't understand what evidence is, either. to repeat, smerdon said that, he said it on his blog, and i would an apology, and i would like you to explain why we should ignore what he said about the usefulness of your book, while only paying attention to the positive parts of the review you quote. 

He’s not a diplomat and he never has been: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Bulgarian_diplomats

Those are only ambassadors and foreign ministers with pages on Wikipedia.

I have served for 13 years, from 2000-2013 and got the diplomatic rank of second secretary, if you want to submit an official query about me, you might certainly do so at the Bulgarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs: http://www.mfa.bg/

I was definitely better of as a career diplomat rather than a forum peddler, but I would never have seen the miracles I have on the chess board with SF.

Maybe some day more people will appreciate my sacrifice and the value of my book.

Your name is nowhere on that page. I searched "secretary", "second secretary" and "tsvetkov" and found nothing.

You don't know how to search.

Most of the info is in Bulgarian, of course.

I guess I am more virulently attacked than Trump, at this time of the year.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov

Btw., I suspect Chesster is a North Korean spy, could that be?

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
chesster3145 wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
SmyslovFan wrote:
pretzel2 wrote:

... then he tries to throw up a cloud of smoke by posting more meaningless games against the computer. 

Yes, there's a definite pattern here. Whenever something hits too close, you see a sudden surge of posts that only serve to obfuscate.

I have nothing to obfuscate, those are the usual games I am posting.

What should I hide, that Smerdon posted a comment?

I simply had not read it until now, but it is a normal comment.

Yes, there are probably better learning books for club players, in terms of easy access to knowledge, but not to ALL the knowledge available in 'The Secret of Chess', because it is available ONLY there.

People could learn probably in an easier way, but NOT the very same things they could leran from my book, as they are present ONLY there.

As simple as that.

I am not afraid of reviews, words or anything.

2 things I am afraid of are LIES and noise.

Are you sure about that? I've shown several of your positions to be carbon copies of well-known ideas, and several of your explanations to be rather poor.

Several, maybe.

I have half original ideas and half recycled stuff.

Other authors have all their stuff recycled.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
FBloggs wrote:
petrip wrote:
FBloggs wrote:

With enemies like you, who needs friends? LT doesn't even have to create his own threads. You people are going to make him the most famous person in the world.    

But kinda fame that still does not sell books.... 

Given all the criticism of the author and his book in these threads, I don't think the content of the threads helps book sales. But naming threads after the author puts his name out there. A lot of people see the name but don't visit the threads. Name recognition helps.

I have long known there are not many people on Chess.com.

I guess everyone who saw it, bought the book, and that is it.

So maybe, there are around 100 people on Chess.com, not more.

People are playing, who is reading stuff?

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov

See how I beat SF in 30 moves, can you do the very same?

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov

Sometimes, winning is difficult, though, even with a pawn more.

Check 'Human versus Machine', stay on top of the chess wave: https://www.amazon.com/Human-Versus-Machine-Stockfish-Komodo/dp/1549916785

stewardjandstewardj
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
chesster3145 wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
chesster3145 wrote:
pretzel2 wrote:

hey tsetkov is this what they taught you in diplomacy school? you just ignore what smerdon said because he didn't say it in the review you are so fond of using to sell your book, and call me a liar for merely cutting and pasting the quote from his blog. do you even understand what the word "lie" means? i would think an actual diplomat would. and all you do for "evidence" is put more games against your home computer up. maybe you don't understand what evidence is, either. to repeat, smerdon said that, he said it on his blog, and i would an apology, and i would like you to explain why we should ignore what he said about the usefulness of your book, while only paying attention to the positive parts of the review you quote. 

He’s not a diplomat and he never has been: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Bulgarian_diplomats

Those are only ambassadors and foreign ministers with pages on Wikipedia.

I have served for 13 years, from 2000-2013 and got the diplomatic rank of second secretary, if you want to submit an official query about me, you might certainly do so at the Bulgarian Ministry of Foreign Affairs: http://www.mfa.bg/

I was definitely better of as a career diplomat rather than a forum peddler, but I would never have seen the miracles I have on the chess board with SF.

Maybe some day more people will appreciate my sacrifice and the value of my book.

Your name is nowhere on that page. I searched "secretary", "second secretary" and "tsvetkov" and found nothing.

You don't know how to search.

Most of the info is in Bulgarian, of course.

I guess I am more virulently attacked than Trump, at this time of the year.

Trump is probably attacked more just because he's the president and a lot more people know him than you, but relative to publicity, you are absolutely attacked more than Trump. However virulently is not the word to use. More so the exact opposite word to use. A better word would be justly. Not the best word, but is much better than virulently!

btw, I also looked up searches such as "Bulgarian diplomat Lyudmil Tsvetkov", and their was only three sites that said you were a Bulgarian diplomat. Two of them were created by YOU, the secretofchess website and your book on Amazon. The third one is chessprogramming.wikispaces.com. It works like Wikipedia, but is much less secure, and you don't need to post any links to confirm that your edits are correct. All of the edits, 60 all together, were made by the same person. This person has made TENS OF THOUSANDS of edits on this site, so all he probably did was see that you claimed you were a Bulgarian diplomat, and edited it to say that. He did not pay close attention to his edit since he edits so much.

If you think chesster is a bad Google searcher, could YOU find a link other than your website, your Amazon book, and the unofficial and unreliable Wikispace to support your claims as a Bulgarian diplomat? I didn't doubt it before, but if you can't give some sort of link to prove it, I , as well as others, will start to have some serious doubts.

stewardjandstewardj
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
 

See how I beat SF in 30 moves, can you do the very same?

No, and neither can you

stewardjandstewardj
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:

Btw., I suspect Chesster is a North Korean spy, could that be?

Wow, SO MUCH LOGIC to this random suspicion that CAME OUT OF NO WHERE with NO LOGIC WATSOEVER