Making it to 2000 is easy... In theory.

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ifronning

I was doing the math the other day, being frustrated by my elo struggles. 2000 elo is only 250 games, if each game wins eight elo points. So in theory, you only need to gain eight elo points per day for 250 days to gain 2000 elo. If you are already at 200 elo (the lowest of the low) It would only take you 225 days. That is around seven months.

I went on a losing streak over the past few days, dropping from 1344 to 1157 on Rapid, but I am back up to around 1220. That means I can make it to 2000 in only 98 days, if I only gain eight points per day. I find that I lose most often when I become frustrated, flustered, and/or distracted. Today alone I gained 50 points, but that is through careful play, and intentionally remaining calm and calculated. If I could gain fifty points every day, it would only take me around two weeks to reach 2000. My highest ever rating is 1407. All of this is charted territory for me. I just need to remain calm.

I guess the gist of this post is to remind my fellow players to not take the game too seriously, but at the same time, be calm and calculated. Here is an analogy: An old business man once told me that even if you enjoy the work, running a small business that loses money, even if you can technically "afford it" by subsidizing the business with your personal funds, is not a fun business to run. The same applies to games, and specifically, chess. While the game is fun, it is not fun to lose more often than than you win. The game is the most fun when we can see the fruit of our labor, most often reflected by our rating going up. It takes time, effort, and willpower.

ifronning
TheNameofNames wrote:

notwithstanding the knowledge gap then yeah its just statistics

True, I meant to add in the original post that as your rating climbs it is exponentially more difficult to win games (in other words, the talent is exponentially higher) which comes from intense study and practice.

HangingPiecesChomper

2000 elo on this site is too easy

ifronning
HangingPiecesChomper wrote:

2000 elo on this site is too easy

Actually, while dabbling on Lichess I have found the rated games to be much easier. Supposedly I am a 1487 Blitz player on Lichess, while struggling to surpass 1100 on Chess.com.

lfPatriotGames
HangingPiecesChomper wrote:

2000 elo on this site is too easy

If you think 2000 is easy, try 2500. Most people can do that within a couple weeks.

There was a topic years ago about "1200, the masters rating", once you get past 1200 it just gets easier and easier. Until you get well past 3000. Probably because chess, in general, is just an easy game.

imaginarygirlfriend

Stop using elo to evaluate yourself is what I think. It's not the elo points that matter but the mistakes in our play that hold all of us back. The game of chess should technically always be drawn, but we know this is not the case because of error. So just work on your game, instead of using this unpragmatic approach to rating gain.

For almost two years continuous, I have devoted much of my freetime to playing/learning chess and I have become a very capable player floating around 1500 elo. But it took me one year to jump from 0-1200 whereas, it took another whole year just to reach 1500-1600! Last night I even beat the 2200 Nora bot - but lost to an 800 elo in a casual game. It just happens... blundering away a win still counts as a loss. And only the most self critical players can learn to overcome this factor. Tarrasch once said it best - "First class players can still lose to Second class players, because Second class players sometimes play a First class game."

sndeww
ifronning wrote:
HangingPiecesChomper wrote:

2000 elo on this site is too easy

Actually, while dabbling on Lichess I have found the rated games to be much easier. Supposedly I am a 1487 Blitz player on Lichess, while struggling to surpass 1100 on Chess.com.

at the lower ratings, lichess rating gives you a bigger number. Once you pass around the 2200-2400 (varies from player) they converge and playing on chess.com will get you a higher rating.

V_Awful_Chess

Your outlook is guaranteed to make you stop enjoying chess.

At some point, your rating will stop going up. It could happen at 2000, it could already have happened. At that point, you have to either start enjoying chess when your rating doesn't go up or you have to quit chess.

ClickandMove

Don't be too hard on yourself. All things can be done at a proper pacing. Always do an effort just above your capability and everything will follow.

siddirocks

As your elo increases, you will be paired with stronger opponents, and you will lose more than you win. The path is not linear.

analist76bis

play chess.. let rating go by itself.. yiou need to have fun.. not to be anxious from not winning

the rating is coming from your calm and improve chess

make so much puzzle as you can..it is developing midle game...

ifronning
siddirocks wrote:

As your elo increases, you will be paired with stronger opponents, and you will lose more than you win. The path is not linear.

You are right, I meant to add in the original post that our opponents' strength is exponentially greater as we climb the elo ladder, which means each game is increasingly difficult, and winning merely one more game than we lose each day is a tough task in the higher elo brackets. For instance, after going on a losing streak and dropping 100-200 points, I can easily win three-to-five games in a row, because my opponents are MUCH weaker, but after getting back up to 1300-1400 elo, each game takes far more focus and accuracy to win. Winning two games in a row in the 1300-1400 range is a good day for me, but three or more is spectacular.

analist76bis

you need to be trained tacticaly..to understand at some point beginings in order not to be completely lost after it...to manage the midle game...where to atack..how the position is getiing..what to do when you have material advance..or disadvantage.. to understand what final is to be seen...to know how to play endings...

there are a lot of steps to go to 2000