Opening Theory and Vegetarianism are both OVERRATED.

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Sunshiny wrote:
Stevie65 wrote:
Sunshiny wrote:
Stevie65 wrote:

Horse was deemed to have a more productive value,  rats live in filth and carry disease,Hunting cats such as sabre tooth expelled too much energy,dogs had a working value also and people made good slaves.

Just eat the useless stuff

What about the common housecat? I'm sure cattle had close to as much a productive value, yet they were eaten. People can be pretty useless too. At times they're even more trouble than they're worth.

I have a.. hmmmm...My cat is not common! he's refined and he's my buddy.Cattle are thick and stupid!  When we became clever enough to enslave horses..We did.   and people that are useless, just feed them vegetables and put them in the cellar to help the mushrooms grow

Pigs are intelligent creatures, and could make good buddies too, but that doesn't stop people from eating them. My main point is that a line is drawn somewhere, and vegetarians drew it at the point of eating meat.

I have encountered people that found it gross and abhorrent when they heard that people in other countries ate cats and dogs. Why? Was it just because they were familiar with them? Some vegetarians might not be so different with the exception of the need to be familiar with the animals. Those vegetarians recognize the pain and suffering without beings the ones to pull the trigger at point blank range. 

 

Most Americans see cats and dogs more as pets , not food and I bet thats why they find the thought of eating them abhorrent .  Who wants to eat their pets ?  

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It was a joke.  Get it?  Wink wink nudge nudge.

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bigpoison wrote:

It was a joke.  Get it?  Wink wink nudge nudge.

Ok. It's hard to tell sometimes. You meet the strangest creatures here... Kiss

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bigpoison wrote:

It was a joke.  Get it?  Wink wink nudge nudge.

Feckin' winker!

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Wank wank nudge nudge.

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Sunshiny wrote:
Stevie65 wrote:
Sunshiny wrote:
Stevie65 wrote:

Horse was deemed to have a more productive value,  rats live in filth and carry disease,Hunting cats such as sabre tooth expelled too much energy,dogs had a working value also and people made good slaves.

Just eat the useless stuff

What about the common housecat? I'm sure cattle had close to as much a productive value, yet they were eaten. People can be pretty useless too. At times they're even more trouble than they're worth.

I have a.. hmmmm...My cat is not common! he's refined and he's my buddy.Cattle are thick and stupid!  When we became clever enough to enslave horses..We did.   and people that are useless, just feed them vegetables and put them in the cellar to help the mushrooms grow

Pigs are intelligent creatures, and could make good buddies too, but that doesn't stop people from eating them. My main point is that a line is drawn somewhere, and vegetarians drew it at the point of eating meat.

I have encountered people that found it gross and abhorrent when they heard that people in other countries ate cats and dogs. Why? Was it just because they were familiar with them? Some vegetarians might not be so different with the exception of the need to be familiar with the animals. Those vegetarians recognize the pain and suffering without beings the ones to pull the trigger at point blank range. 

 

Most Americans see cats and dogs more as pets , not food and I bet thats why they find the thought of eating them abhorrent .  Who wants to eat their pets ?  

Yes, it's a limited scope. Though, i doubt it stops fish owners and bird owners from eating other fish and fowl.

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Embarassed

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I have noticed people who do not eat meat are often kind people who abhor the conditions of some animals bred for slaughter.

I respect their motives a lot more than someone tied to the dogma of some holy book.

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Red lady would you indulge in anything that a meateater has produced..for example a builder lays a path and you walk on it and that builder has probably eaten meat to support his energy levels that he needs to lay the path.

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Stevie65 wrote:

Horse was deemed to have a more productive value,  rats live in filth and carry disease,Hunting cats such as sabre tooth expelled too much energy,dogs had a working value also and people made good slaves.

Just eat the useless stuff.

This reads like The Neanderthal's Guide to Fine Dining.  Good pragmatic thinking.    

Similar reasoning can be used to choose openings -- I play the Reversed Slav with white, and the Modern Defense with black.  Exclusively.  Smile

Both openings have a THEORY which is relatively small, and 99 percent of the time your opponent CANNOT transpose away from them.

Indeed, Larsen's Opening 1) b3, (a reversed Queen's Indian), and many other "reversed systems" are available for use with the white pieces.

On the black side, you (essentially) must have a repetoire against 1) e4, and against the Queen's Gambit (e4 + c4, with white).  Black typically gets to "choose" the defense played.  Use this same "trick" from the white side.  Play a reversed opening.

Very Simple.

As a result, you're on familiar ground, your opponent is (probably) NOT.  You're "booked up," your opponent is probably NOT.  Do the first 20 moves of a chess games matter all that much, when you're rated less than USCF 1800, or even USCF 2000, OTB?

NOPE.

You have lots choices for (safe) opening systems.  Virtually any reversed (mainline) black system works just fine from the white side.  Try it.

According to GM Hellsten --

"A quick glance at your opponent's games with the "wrong" color can establish whether he plays a particular line with both colors -- there is at least one such line in the repetoire of any player." (emphasis added), Johan Hellsten, Mastering Opening Strategy, (2012), page 354.

So start simple, build your black side opening repetoire, first.  Build your white-side opening repetoire, only LATER.  That is, after you complete your (initial) middlegame and endgame studies.

Learn to win with the black pieces, first.  It will always be easier to win with the white pieces, later.  Smile

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The coolest critter I ever knew was a boar.  That doesn't keep me from eating pork.

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ABBA overrated? you go too far, Sir!

 

En garde!

 

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bigpoison wrote:

The coolest critter I ever knew was a boar.  That doesn't keep me from eating pork.

I've known a lot of boors, but never a boar.

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Or a Boer for that matter.

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red-lady wrote:
bigpoison wrote:

It was a joke.  Get it?  Wink wink nudge nudge.

Ok. It's hard to tell sometimes. You meet the strangest creatures here... 

 

 

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Stevie65 wrote:

Red lady would you indulge in anything that a meateater has produced..for example a builder lays a path and you walk on it and that builder has probably eaten meat to support his energy levels that he needs to lay the path.

Einstein didn't eat meat. Where did he get his energy from?

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People mentioned NRA.  NRA stands for Non-Responsible A$$holes!

Nobody needs an F'ing AK-47 or Semi-Automatic outside of Cops and Military.  The fact that these items are sold to the public is assinine!  You can deer hunt with a pistol.

I think that aiming anything with a bullet at any human being should automatically be a 200 year sentence in prison with ZERO chance at parole, no ifs, ands, or buts, if the person that pulls the trigger is 18 or older.

Deer hunting or any other form of gun possession by anybody under the age of 18 should be an automatic felony, an automatic Juvenille Detention sentence of 5 years for the child if convicted, and 10 years for the owner of the gun if convicted.  If theft is determined to be the cause, and the theif then forced the child to possess it as a form of ransom or kidnapping, then the convicted theif is automatically sentenced to 200 years without parole, again no ifs, ands, or buts.

Guns are not f*cking toys!  They are not intended for casual use.

Also, Deer Hunting should be "Proceed at your own risk".  You kill somebody (human)?  Doesn't matter.  You took the risk by going Deer Hunting.  You get 200 years no parole for killing a human with a gun.

The following items should all be an automatic 200 year sentence if convicted:

1) Murder or even the threat to harm a human with an armed weapon, regardless if 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree.  Again, proceed at your own risk if you want to hunt.
2) Drunk Driving (whether you kill somebody or not)
3) Kidnapping
4) Rape
5) Intentional Assault of any form for any reason other than Self Defense
6) Any form of Armed Robbery (That includes weapons like Clubs, Baseball Bats, etc, not just Guns)
7) False Accusation of any of the above felonies and you yourself get 200 years, no Questions asked.

The following would result in a lesser sentence than 200 years:

1) Accidental Death by Motor Vehicle with a blood alcohol reading BELOW 0.08
2) Petty Larceny (Unarmed)
3) Minor Traffic Violations provided blood alcohol below 0.08

You'd be amazed at how much this would clean up the act of Americans.

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ScorpionPackAttack wrote:
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IE you like to play the Ruy Lopez opening, but not everybody is going to play ...e5 and then ...Kc6.

OMG OMG Ruy Lopez Bongcloud Vatiation!!! :D

ammm what??

The Ruy Lopez is e4...e5, Kf3...Kc6, Bb5

Only from there the variations begin.

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red-lady wrote:
Stevie65 wrote:

Red lady would you indulge in anything that a meateater has produced..for example a builder lays a path and you walk on it and that builder has probably eaten meat to support his energy levels that he needs to lay the path.

Einstein didn't eat meat. Where did he get his energy from?

He didn't walk on muddy tracks either

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The latest indications we have suggest that Einstein was vegetarian only for the last year or so of his life, though he appears to have supported the idea for many years before practising it himself.