Renaming WGM WIM WFM Titles

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I wonder if someday the w will be replaced by f for female since one doesn't need to be old to get them.

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The titles are a joke anyway.  Basically it is saying that women are inferior to men in the intellect department, and wouldn't be able to obtain a regular GM, IM, or FM title, so let's make it easier for them.  (The criteria to obtain these female titles is less than the regular GM, IM or FM titles.)

I'm one who believes that women are NOT inferior to men.  Yes, they are not as strong (physically), and yes, they can't run as fast, etc., which is why men and women don't compete together in sports.  But chess is a game of the mind.

I do not believe they should have a lesser criteria to obtain the same title.  I think it's an insult to their intelligence.  Kudos to Judith Polgar for refusing to play in women's only tournaments.

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MrEdCollins wrote:

The titles are a joke anyway.  Basically it is saying that women are inferior to men in the intellect department, and wouldn't be able to obtain a regular GM, IM, or FM title, so let's make it easier for them.  (The criteria to obtain these female titles is less than the regular GM, IM or FM titles.)

I'm one who believes that women are NOT inferior to men.  Yes, they are not as strong, and yes, they can't run as fast, etc., which is why men and women don't compete together in sports.  But chess is a game of the mind.

I do not believe they should have a lesser criteria to obtain the same title.  I think it's an insult to their intelligence.  Kudos to Judith Polgar for refusing to play in women's only tournaments.

But they are inferior.

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Dale wrote:

I wonder if someday the w will be replaced by f for female since one doesn't need to be old to get them.

FGM would be highly unfortunate...

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Top women is like 200 points lower than top men. How can you say that they aren't inferior.

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Fiveofswords wrote:

i think the titles should be expanded on. for example swfgm for single white female gm. or especially what people really want to know like asfgm for attractive single female gm. they could combine chess and a beauty pagent for women kinda like men have chess boxing.

I'd vote for this system.

ANd my submission:

LGIaBWM

(Looks great in a bikini womens master)

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W is fine, it stands for "weaker".

 

And in the end, that's exactly what these titles mean.

Now if only the blatant sexism was stopped and men were also qualified for these titles then I might become a weaker candidate master too one day.

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And the average WCM could not :D

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Yeah. Men are also superior because we can write our name in the snow with our own pee. Laughing

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Gunvald123 wrote:
kleelof hat geschrieben:

Yeah. Men are also superior because we can write our name in the snow with our own pee. 

I'm 100% positive females can do that too, peelof.

Maybe Swedish women can.

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Gunvald123 wrote:
kleelof hat geschrieben:
Gunvald123 wrote:
kleelof hat geschrieben:

Yeah. Men are also superior because we can write our name in the snow with our own pee. 

I'm 100% positive females can do that too, peelof.

Maybe Swedish women can.

 

 

Hard to choose which one you like best? Laughing

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There is a product that lets women pee while standing up. And autocorrect doesn't like pee...

Avatar of zborg

Still waiting for the Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner of Chess ??

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You're 'girlfriend dad'?

Laughing

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Wait...now I'm really confused. Your girlfriend has a 'girlfriend dad'?

Laughing

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chessmicky wrote:

you're not confused, you're stupid--an incurable condition I'm sorry to say

Ah, now you're just trying to hurt my feelings. Frown

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EvgeniyZh wrote:

Top women is like 200 points lower than top men. How can you say that they aren't inferior.

Easy. 

Because the pool of female players is far, far less than that of male players.  With such a smaller pool, statistically you will have many more males at the top than females.

Females, for many reasons, don't "enjoy" chess the way men do.  They aren't "wired" that way.  But because they aren't wired that way doesn't make them "inferior."

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PlanarCombat wrote:
MrEdCollins wrote:

The titles are a joke anyway.  Basically it is saying that women are inferior to men in the intellect department, and wouldn't be able to obtain a regular GM, IM, or FM title, so let's make it easier for them.  (The criteria to obtain these female titles is less than the regular GM, IM or FM titles.)

I'm one who believes that women are NOT inferior to men.  Yes, they are not as strong, and yes, they can't run as fast, etc., which is why men and women don't compete together in sports.  But chess is a game of the mind.

I do not believe they should have a lesser criteria to obtain the same title.  I think it's an insult to their intelligence.  Kudos to Judith Polgar for refusing to play in women's only tournaments.

Nope, I'm afraid you're wrong. In general, women are intellectually inferior to men (at high levels of intelligence). Of course there are exceptions; that's why I say "In general". But at high levels of intelligence, men are almost always going to be more intelligent.

Pretty interesting insite coming from someone on the lower end of the intelligence scale.

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I recall Nigel Short saying something and getting his bottom spanked by a Ms Polgar...

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What truly matters as skill indicator is someone's rating. Titles are just awards.