Takeback denials after mouse slips (not just here)

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polydiatonic
J'adoube
checkmateibeatu
yourmomplaysme wrote:

I think Instead of a take back button there should be a fix option. This would allow you to move the piece again, but only that piece.

This website is basically trying to emulate playing chess in real life. and in real life you dont slip and accidently put i piece down in a spot you didnt mean too. so for this reason there should be a take back button

but at the same time you shouldnt be able to put a piece down then realize you should have moved another piece then take your move back and move that second piece. In a real game of chess when your piece is down, its down.

So to compromise there should be an option where you can take back your move but you can only move the piece you were gonna move anyway.


Good idea!

polydiatonic
That actually makes sense yourmomplaysme wrote: I think Instead of a take back button there should be a fix option. This would allow you to move the piece again, but only that piece. This website is basically trying to emulate playing chess in real life. and in real life you dont slip and accidently put i piece down in a spot you didnt mean too. so for this reason there should be a take back button but at the same time you shouldnt be able to put a piece down then realize you should have moved another piece then take your move back and move that second piece. In a real game of chess when your piece is down, its down. So to compromise there should be an option where you can take back your move but you can only move the piece you were gonna move anyway.
checkmateibeatu
polydiatonic wrote:
That actually makes sense yourmomplaysme wrote: I think Instead of a take back button there should be a fix option. This would allow you to move the piece again, but only that piece. This website is basically trying to emulate playing chess in real life. and in real life you dont slip and accidently put i piece down in a spot you didnt mean too. so for this reason there should be a take back button but at the same time you shouldnt be able to put a piece down then realize you should have moved another piece then take your move back and move that second piece. In a real game of chess when your piece is down, its down. So to compromise there should be an option where you can take back your move but you can only move the piece you were gonna move anyway.

Why didn't you just quote it?

ButWhereIsTheHorse

maybe you should buy a new mouse

ButWhereIsTheHorse

Justin Bieber rocks! i luv him

checkmateibeatu
Bankwell wrote:

Qd7+ is a tactical error, and simply loses a queen to Qxd7.  There's your problem.  Stop playing crappy moves, and you won't lose your queen.

You're welcome.


It is not a "tactical error" it is a mouse slip.

checkmateibeatu
EZap wrote:
checkmateibeatu wrote:

I think that if someone's mouse slips, they should be entitled a takeback.  They intended to make another move but they made an obvious mistake. Here is an example game in which a mouse slip occurs:

 

I know this is going to start a lot of controversy, but I respect all of your opinions and I was just showing you how I stood.

 Oh yeah i see the slip, black meant to play d5 and not d6. Yes he should have had a take back.


That sort of thing is not major.  But my example is very major.

polydiatonic
checkmateibeatu wrote:
polydiatonic wrote:
That actually makes sense yourmomplaysme wrote: I think Instead of a take back button there should be a fix option. This would allow you to move the piece again, but only that piece. This website is basically trying to emulate playing chess in real life. and in real life you dont slip and accidently put i piece down in a spot you didnt mean too. so for this reason there should be a take back button but at the same time you shouldnt be able to put a piece down then realize you should have moved another piece then take your move back and move that second piece. In a real game of chess when your piece is down, its down. So to compromise there should be an option where you can take back your move but you can only move the piece you were gonna move anyway.

Why didn't you just quote it?


that's how it formats when I use my mobile device on forums.  Maybe  you can let me take my move back?

Skwerly

same as otb - if you drop a piece on the wrong square and hit the clock, it's fair game.  it may not be good sportsmanship, but it's part of online chess. 

checkmateibeatu
Skwerly wrote:

same as otb - if you drop a piece on the wrong square and hit the clock, it's fair game.  it may not be good sportsmanship, but it's part of online chess. 


The thing with online is that you don't have to hit the clock.  I don't know about you, but I want the result of games to reflect on who played better, not who was lucky enouggh not to have their mouse slip.

DrawMaster

Ode to the Chess-Playing Mouse

Sometimes my mouse chokes on a tiny bit of cheese
And drops a chess piece on an ill-fated square.
I have scolded him for this; ten times, at the least,
But doing so seems more than unfair.

Our mice are such faithful chaps, laboring silently game after game;
Through thick and thin, both the loss and the win, on PCs that time forgot.
Whether we play like Kasparov or even Bobby-what's-his-name
Treat our mice well, for they are a hard working lot. Wink

checkmateibeatu
DrawMaster wrote:

  Bobby-what's-his-name

 


Fischer.

KittyKelly

Cute

checkmateibeatu

For example, here is a position which actually (look it up in my live chess history if you don't believe me) happened in a bullet game just now:

checkmateibeatu

An example of this happening in an ACTUAL GAME of mine (I meant to go Be7 instead)

yusuf_prasojo
checkmateibeatu wrote:The thing with online is that you don't have to hit the clock.  I don't know about you, but I want the result of games to reflect on who played better, not who was lucky enouggh not to have their mouse slip.

It should reflect who can play better by (cleverly) combining knowledge, skill, accuracy and speed. You can choose to play slowly at the risk of losing on time, or you can choose to play quickly at the risk of a mouse slip. It's a FAIR play.

Situation is different with online chess, that's why you have the option to use a SUBMIT button, in place of a chess clock. If you want to use a submit button in your blitz games, that's fine, I don't Smile

In blitz you can play plenty games in an hour. One or two mouse slip will not lower your rating to a level you don't deserve. Who knows, most of your winnings are from winning on time?

I had an experience in a 3 or 2 minute game. My opponent told me that he had a mouse slip and wanted to take back the move, and I didn't respond, and he shouted at me saying I'm childish, only want to win in unfair situation, bla bla bla, but I just quietly smiled.

Now that you have seen enough responses to your question, and if you are the one who played the game with me, I believe you are able to do what a mature person would do: change your mindset. At least, think about it.

TheOldReb

Noone should be expected to give a takeback due to YOUR carelessness . Takebacks are NOT a part of serious chess. I lose many games on time because I move a little slower than my speedy opponents BUT I almost never have a slip because I take a little more time/care in order to avoid them. This means my more speedy opponents will slip/blunder more often so these help to offset the many games I lose on time, in which I am NOT losing on the board .  Why should I give a takeback ? Also, how can you click on your king if you are intending to move a bishop ?! 

Elroch

If you're making enough mouse slips to be concerned when your opponent doesn't pity you enough to give you a takeback, you're making way too many. Better to concentrate on improving your motor skills or switch to a different time control, rather than whining. Think of a mouse slip as being like a shot off the frame in tennis. Embarrassing and entirely your responsibility.

Monoceros

I understand mouseslips in which the piece drops one or two squares too early. Had those myself too, however could be avoided by clicking the piece and then pressing at the squares.

However clicking the wrong piece and moving it I can not understand. Thats really carelessness.

Also one time I tried playing on another site, just to look how I would do it there. In that game I found a nice fork which which would cost my opponents his rook. At that same moment my opponent asked for a takeback of his queen... and said to me sorry mouseslip, I dropped my queen on the wrong place. And I was like ok I don't playing like this, because with almost all one move mistakes the opponent will request a take back. Yeah I forgot that my horsie was under attack but it was a mouseslip I had no intention of moving the piece at the opposite side of the bord. Anyway I refused that takeback, my opponent angry because of my "badsportmanship" and a few moves later he ask for another takeback...

Then I decided to resign and leave that site. Believe me, opponents asking for takebacks while playing chess is REALLY annoying.