When do you think chess will be solved?

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YouAreHaveStupid

Solving chess means finding an optimal strategy for playing chess, i.e. one by which one of the players (White or Black) can always force a victory, or both can force a draw. According to Zermelo's Theory, a hypothetically determinable optimal strategy does exist for chess.

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When do you think chess will be solved? In a few decades, centuries, millenniums, or do you think chess will never be solved?

 

saurav2202

chess is a mystery and this is how it will go down in history! 

llama

When you understand how much space a 32 man EGTB would require, you'll understand that it will never be fully solved.

When you understand how difficult relatively simple technical endgames are to play perfectly for humans, you'll understand that even if it were solved, the way humans play would barely be changed, if at all.

Cherub_Enjel

There are problems with both space and time in solving chess... even if you were to consider only the "plausible" continuations. 

YouAreHaveStupid

There are more chess positions (including illegal ones) than atoms in the universe.

nigelnorris

The number of possible positions is a red herring, there will never be a need to check all of them. It's more likely that an engine will find a forced draw for either side after twenty moves or so and that will be the end of the debate. Mind you that's still a lot of moves to check and won't be happening soon.

Smellfungus
Chess will never be solved but I predict within a century quantum computers will come close. By then humans will be extinct, destroyed by A.I. So it won't matter.
llama
nigelnorris wrote:

The number of possible positions is a red herring, there will never be a need to check all of them. It's more likely that an engine will find a forced draw for either side after twenty moves or so and that will be the end of the debate. Mind you that's still a lot of moves to check and won't be happening soon.

A forced draw in 20 moves without checking all moves? This is wrong for multiple reasons happy.png

But sure, a near-solution, with some high degree of certainty below 100%, could be made without building a 32 man EGTB.

MitSud
Eventually computers will become strong enough to store every possible position possible
llama

Strength =/= storage capacity.

ObscureReference

Can't we all agree it is a draw? 

macer75

Tomorrow.

universityofpawns

I solved it, already done....problem is there is more than one solution....

llama

Colonel Mustard, in the study, with the engine.

nikoBelicAK

maybe it is already happened. Just not proven and declared. Algorithms are very strong they dont need 32 man TB. 

llama

That's not how "solved" works. But sure, with engines being as good as they are, in some small sense we already have a soft solution.

TypicalChessPlayer1
My guess is around 2050

Think about it.

Computers have rose from around 2800 to 3300 in only 20 years, surely, in 33 more years, with all the new technology and neural networks, it could be solved if people really tried
TypicalChessPlayer1
All you have to do is get a bunch of super computers to analyze many different positions, then put the answers on a cloud.
Rsava

In the year 2525.

AnnChess2
Smellfungus wrote:
Chess will never be solved but I predict within a century quantum computers will come close. By then humans will be extinct, destroyed by A.I. So it won't matter.
 
This doesn't sound too optimistic.