It was, one could say, re-invented by the Buddha and formulated by his disciples based on his teachings. We can know this through the action of the pieces, for example, the eightfold path (fundamental in Buddhist doctrine) is represented by the pawn being transformed on moving onto the eighth square; black and white pieces (yin and yang), the need for an active attention in order to play requiring inner effort and which can be an aid to inner development (we all know that we can have good days when we seem to play much better.) It can aid us in taking stock of our psychological state at any one time and of course we can get intimations of higher states in those games when we can marvel at the beauty of the game in the particular way a game develops. It is in fact what the ancients would call a legonanism, like some forms of art, this is where real knowledge is embedded in a form that is fixed through time, like the sphinx, and not subject to the changes that time imposes on meaning through other mediums, the written word for example. Chess has always been around because it depicts eternal, universal and unchangeable laws

DON"T LISTEN IT'S JOHN CHESS INVENTOR OF CHESS.

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There was a gam ein India called Chattaeunga it was played a board with 32 pieces 64 square but the pieces were little bit diffrent like the can move diagonally but only 2 squares the pawns can move 1 square only even in their first move it is said that chess evolved from there.Personally I think its correct bcz it has every thing like chess but the pieces were little bit nerfed

I would say the Sassanids (Persia). It is when all the basic elements came together. The Indian game was similar to the point where strong influence is obvious. Even the name chataranga vs shatranj. But the Indian game was four player. The Chinese game had less similarities but was a two player game. The Sassanids had access to both India and China. It appears they altered the Indian game to two person. The game certainly wasn't the exact same as modern chess, but it is similar enough to call it chess at this point. If not, then we are left with the Spanish in the 17th century. At that point it was surely chess.

True modern chess is an international invention with primary influence in Europe.

Most historians favor India, but the story you have here is plausible and championed by some historians.

Interestingly, there is a Persian story that they received the game as a riddle from India. The game came without rules, and the wise men of Persia solved it. They then sent backgammon back to India as a riddle, but the Indians failed to solve it.

Of course, there is no reason to believe this particular story is true any more than to believe the popular story that the Indian inventor was offered a reward of “anything in my kingdom” by the king. He asked only for one grain of rice/wheat/? on the first square of the chessboard. Two on the second square. Four on the third. And so on, doubling the amount on each square. India did not have enough grain.

Chaturanga means four limbs. While you may post stuff in a forum, it doesn't mean it is how things were. Some assume Chaturanga was two player, but the name suggests otherwise. The info isn't entirely clear as we don't really have full descriptions from a long time ago, just general mentions. Fair enough that the four player was questioned though not actually refuted. Opinions are split on that and they do appear to be opinions rather than established fact.

But the near simultaneous historical mentions of all three games is interesting. The Persian historical mention of India as the source is also meaningful. But chess is chess and chaturanga is chaturanga. So we would have to decide what defines something as chess. Shatranj rules varied within Persia but what came out of Persia and ended up in Spain is what I believe most reasonable people would agree is chess. I can see people considering Chaturanga to not be chess as entirely reasonable, because it isn't.

Since there was a common trade route and simultaneous existence of three similar board games, I believe it is entirely possible the three games influenced each other. And the chess we now have is the most internationally influenced variant.

An unpopular though strictly correct statement is that modern chess was developed in Europe from an earlier game from the East. After all, several rules that make chess what is is today came about during the European dominance of the game. Draw rules, who starts first, clock rules, en passant and others. The religious iconography is a big clue.

That's now. We don't know what they were in he past exactly. Or is there some source from the time that makes that clear?

I understand there are arguments made as to whether there is chaturaji as a game or just a position in the 4 person chaturanga. That there are arguments makes clear that it is not really known.

But one game or two, not chess.

 wanna ask", the person replied, you can't give it to me his highness!! king said, well ask!

the inventor said, "okay, put rice in one box of the chess and keep it doubling until 64th square. " when measured such amount of rice was not available in the whole country!!! is this true story? 

thegreat_patzer

Aug 20, 2015

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early folk tale about the chess board. yes.

but this offers no explanation to the peices and how they move. Nobody ,alive, knows who invented it and when.

and that is 100% true.

pineconehenry

Aug 20, 2015

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Chess was invented in India around the 8th century. Then it was known as chatrang, and changed over the centuries by the Arabs, Persians and then ultimately the medieval Europeans, who changed the pieces' names and appearances to resemble the English court.

thegreat_patzer

Aug 20, 2015

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I should say nobody (alive) knows EXACTLY who invented it and when.

as for india. yes thats a popular theory. but the best website I perused said the birthplace was unclear and disputed.

from https://history.chess.free.fr/origins.htm

"The quest of Chess origin is an exciting riddle. This question is still unsolved today despite what can be said or read here or there.

These pages aim at gathering all elements at our disposal. Everyone will then make his own mind.

Chess sprang in History in Persia around 600 A.D., already opposing two armies of 16 pieces each. Searching earlier than that is diving in the game prehistory, in the myths and legends. Every civilization has its own. For the Indians, Chess was invented by a queen of Ceylan (Lanka) besieged by god Râma. For the Chineses, it was invented by the mythical Emperor Shennong or by his successor, Huangdi. For the Arabs and the Persians, it was a wise Indian, Gaw or Sassa (Sissa) with his wheat seeds... For medieaval Europeans, it was Xerxes, a Chaldean philosoph (Xerxes=Sassa?) or maybe it was Alexander the Great, or Ulysses, or the Egyptian queen Nefertiti or maybe Adam to forget Abel's death... Of course, this is not History. Well, so when, where, how Chess was born?

There is no doubt now that Chess is ... an Asiatic game. Three regions may claim to be its cradle: North of India, Central Asia from Iran to Turkestan and Eastern China. No one can object that there is a "genetic" link between all forms of Chess coming from these areas.

For most educated people, there is no question. The main stream theory is Chess was born in India in the 6th century at latest. That's all. Nevertheless, this vision is poorly informed and lies, mainly, on the intuitions of a chain of bright English historians and intellectuals, obviously impressed by the wealth and depth of the Indian civilization at the time where India was under the British rules: Hyde (1694), Jones (1790), Forbes (1860) et Murray (1913). Without denying how important was their contribution for the studies of India, it is clear that possible contribution of other cultures were not envisaged with the same intensity. To make it short, let's say that the main stream theory lacks of definitive proofs."

thegreat_patzer

Aug 20, 2015

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okaaay then. I was NOT going there.

I like "mad queen chess" (as the modern game should be called)- but calling chess a 'European invention' is a bit much.

thats like calling the Rocket an American invention! Its a little unfair...

X_PLAYER_J_X

Aug 20, 2015

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who invented the chess and when?

Since scientist believe humans originated from Africa.

The first Chess forms originated from Africa than spread esle were by humans.

This is my educated guess! Best I got lol.

pineconehenry

Aug 20, 2015

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#7

The modern number of pieces and their movements are all evident in ancient Indian, Arabic, and Persian chess variations. Added by Europeans were the rules regarding move distance, stalemate, double pawn moves and castling - which, as stated, contribute to a more interesting game. A book called The Short History of Chess, by Henry Davidson adds detail to many of these ideas, though I'm sure fault, conflict of interest as well as ambiguity can be found in all history. Also, India invented Indian food, and that stuff is amazing.

pak-psychologist

Aug 21, 2015

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Indian style chess (which was played by my uncle) is different than the international chess we play nowadays. I don't think so that it was invented in 8th century because in Islamic literature of Jurisprudence we find Islamic Jurists deal with game and discuss it and Islam was established aroung 6th century After Christ. 

ANOK1

Aug 21, 2015

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anyone able to date the isle of lewis chessmen ,if so is it close to or earlier than 8th century ad which has been posted as date of origins of chattaranga ?

would love to know who invented chess they are due a massive monument but feel this fact will never be found ,

bigpoison

Aug 21, 2015

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Strange that Europeans couldn't come up with the triangular sail then, eh Jingo?

bigpoison

Aug 21, 2015

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Yep, and the rudder was a European invention, too.

bigpoison

Aug 21, 2015

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#12

You're a silly lad.

trysts

Aug 21, 2015

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You can always hope that he's being sarcastic;)

Ziryab

Aug 21, 2015

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I love it when historical truth is espoused by one who cannot tell a fake Lincoln quote from a fake Twain quote.

I can tell you this. I learned chess in Persia and introduced it to Spain.

https://sites.google.com/site/caroluschess/medieval-history/ziryab

It is true that the Europeans changed some rules that made it more dynamic and that the European version is played everywhere today. I can also say that a young pup whose dad edited the best English dictionary put his skills towards a history of the game and that no other book has exceeded it, although that book was published 102 years ago.

trysts

Aug 21, 2015

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Fiveofswords wrote:

 im simply pointing out the undeniable fact which seems to make people uncomfortable that for some reason all the interesting things came from europe. 

Except that it's not a fact, and it's short-sighted. I'm pretty comfortable in pointing this out to you;)

NMTheOldReb

Aug 21, 2015

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#16

More importantly , who invented grits ?

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bigpoison

Aug 21, 2015

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How can you deny it trysts?! It's undeniable! You must have hit your head.

trysts

Aug 21, 2015

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Reb wrote:

More importantly , who invented grits ?

Native Americans according to wikipedia

trysts

Aug 21, 2015

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bigpoison wrote:

How can you deny it trysts?! It's undeniable! You must have hit your head.

I could be down to a brain stem and still know the difference between fact and opinion

zborg

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Everybody is out of Africa. They are the original frequent flyer miles.

There's more genetic variability among Africans than everyone else combined.

But they didn't invent grits, or chess. Their decendants did.

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