Why does chess attract so many beta males?
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Jan 25, 2020
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#61
Well, think about why you were attracted to it, TakeThisPawn. I hope you’re not implying you’re not a “beta” if you believe in these ridiculous pseudoscience terms.
3 points:
First, the debunking of the myth of alpha male wolves, from Wikipedia:
"In the past, the prevailing view on grey wolf packs was that they consisted of individuals vying with each other for dominance, with dominant grey wolves being referred to as the "alpha" male and female, and the subordinates as "beta" and "omega" wolves. This terminology was first used in 1947 by Rudolf Schenkel of the University of Basel, who based his findings on researching the behavior of captive grey wolves.[18] This view on gray wolf pack dynamics was later popularized by the researcher L. David Mech in his 1970 book The Wolf. He later found additional evidence that the concept of an Alpha male may have been an erroneous interpretation of incomplete data and formally disavowed this terminology in 1999. He explained that it was heavily based on the behavior of captive packs consisting of unrelated individuals, an error reflecting the once prevailing view that wild pack formation occurred in winter among independent grey wolves. Later research on wild gray wolves revealed that the pack is usually a family consisting of a breeding pair and their offspring of the previous 1–3 years. In the article, Mech wrote that the use of the term "alpha" to describe the breeding pair adds no additional information, and is "no more appropriate than referring to a human parent or a doe deer as an alpha." He further notes the terminology falsely implies a "force-based dominance hierarchy." In 13 years of summer observations of wild wolves, he witnessed no dominance contests between them.
Second, if you are going to use the colloquial term "beta males" in spite of the above debunking, this would more apply to social groups of immature males that watch other males and try to emulate them. This would more appropriately refer to males that watch pro sports in groups, cheer and whoop in a pack, and identify themselves with achievements they have no actual hand in (see also: baboon troop), not to individuals directly facing off in a one-on-one game. So, if you want to understand beta males and their behavior, head over to the nearest NFL/NBA messageboard/forum and read the fanboys there.
Third, dropping the alpha/beta male terminology entirely in favor of just discussing males that have no backbone brings us to a discussion of the OP and his trolling...
Jokes aside. Alpha individuals (man/woman) are a fact. There comes an immediate mutual recognition when two of those cross paths (Usually instant mutual respect is an incidental trait to this). That does not imply "force-based dominance hierarchy.". and though physical advantages do occur (usually aesthetic primacy of some sort IS the main criterion.) you can recognize an alpha unit, that do not posses a striking aesthetic wash-away 🌊 , is by standard unattractive, but the clear resonance is there. Like it's hidden beyond the screens of 'aesthetic' (rare). Finally - the true recognition can take place only from a position of another alpha. That is why there is so many attempts of undermining the very existence of this phenomenon as the paragraphs in the posts above make evident. It stays in the realm of unreachable information to all levels below. They can only speculate.
Alphas know.
P.S.> The forming of aesthetic trait originates form the early energetic patterns. "Success" in its basic social understanding is not clue to alpha. Funny enough (and very interesting) is that raw, measured intelligence also. There is another type of 'understanding' in operation, and mostly a very unusual 'touch' to the surrounding reality. So you can dwarf an alpha in a particular sector by learning something, but you'll still yield internally. (Right then you can take a note - because in the instant of that invocable shock and loss of yours you had came close to something, an inner Labyrinth you had so persistently neglected thus far)
Interesting also of course, the case when chess environment is approached from that angle.
In fact, chess world is interesting directly because it very well lightens those Lego-like alphas.
Schnittbrotchen wrote:
Alpha individuals (man/woman) are a fact.
...he says, followed by 2 pages with nary a fact to be found and a cartoon of 2 imaginary and impossible characters to prove his point.
Boys play "king of the hill." Girls play with "Doll houses." Chess is a war game. End of Story?
But either gender can become a killer in chess. How a person behaves is a function of their upbringing, their character, and the context (or platform) in which they behave.
And our BS internet chat environment stokes either fear or anger. If you don't believe me, read the following in today's New York Times --
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/opinion/sunday/surveillance-capitalism.html
AND, for an shining example of either beta male (or beta female) BS, -- I have already read Zuboff's 700 page book on same! (my direct quote) 
btickler wrote:
Schnittbrotchen wrote:
Alpha individuals (man/woman) are a fact.
...he says, followed by 2 pages with nary a fact to be found and a cartoon of 2 imaginary and impossible characters to prove his point.
You'll have your fact, when you find yourself in a presence of one. ☆▽☆)
You'd actually feel uplifted, and a gentle sense of being protected. Also a comforting feeling of being acknowledged .. even if you won't catch it with conscious cognition.
Even when alpha destroys you in some way, you will feel it's ultimately ok.
Schnittbrotchen wrote:
btickler wrote:
Schnittbrotchen wrote:
Alpha individuals (man/woman) are a fact.
...he says, followed by 2 pages with nary a fact to be found and a cartoon of 2 imaginary and impossible characters to prove his point.
You'll have your fact, when you find yourself in a presence of one. ☆▽☆)
You'd actually feel uplifted, and a gentle sense of being protected. Also a comforting feeling of being acknowledged .. even if you won't catch it with conscious cognition.
Even when alpha destroys you in some way, you will feel it's ultimately ok.
Keep living in denial 
. Delusion is one of the most powerful defenses for those who cannot cope.
What the....
Jan 26, 2020
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#71
Schnittbrotchen wrote:
btickler wrote:
Schnittbrotchen wrote:
Alpha individuals (man/woman) are a fact.
...he says, followed by 2 pages with nary a fact to be found and a cartoon of 2 imaginary and impossible characters to prove his point.
You'll have your fact, when you find yourself in a presence of one. ☆▽☆)
You'd actually feel uplifted, and a gentle sense of being protected. Also a comforting feeling of being acknowledged .. even if you won't catch it with conscious cognition.
Even when alpha destroys you in some way, you will feel it's ultimately ok.
Sounded almost biblical
Chicks dig two things, money and kilts, if you don't have the legs for a kilt get rich playing chess, the chicks will find you, that's what happened to Nakamoongi. Maggie Carlsen was beta until he changed his name to Angus M'Carlsen and started wearing a kilt, he went instantly from a 1700 rated incel to a chad super grandmaster practically overnight, try it for yourselves.
Jan 26, 2020
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#75
robbie_1969 wrote:
Chicks dig two things, money and kilts, if you don't have the legs for a kilt get rich playing chess, the chicks will find you, that's what happened to Nakamoongi. Maggie Carlsen was beta until he changed his name to Angus M'Carlsen and started wearing a kilt, he went instantly from a 1700 rated incel to a chad super grandmaster practically overnight, try it for yourselves.
No cash, no kilt, no vest
Bunny's still a chick magnet
(sung to king of the road)
That bunny looks well minted! cute and fluffy, that's it, dem incel chess playas gotta become fluffy, then the chicks will dig yah!
gee thats bitter
Jan 27, 2020
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#79
I alone am worth well over 30 bushels of hay and have laid over 1000 eggs, if you include the tournament games I got swept in last week.
