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I just addressed the last part of ur paragraph there, in the above response actually, very easy to debunk. And again, those attribuets don't make them better suited to be leaders or take control. PERIOD. 

 

Of course women took care of the kids while the men worked, I never said women didn't do anything, they did what they supposed to do, play the role of "SUPPORT" with their attributes that work well with a support position. But it was men that built things, not women. 

This is too easy, my hardest time with you is picking which thing to refute because there are so many.  My OP clearly states "exponentially advancing weapons" which you wont address.  All you can focus on is that men build more things than women!  

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RedGirlZ wrote:

I just addressed the last part of ur paragraph there, in the above response actually, very easy to debunk. And again, those attribuets don't make them better suited to be leaders or take control. PERIOD. 

 

Of course women took care of the kids while the men worked, I never said women didn't do anything, they did what they supposed to do, play the role of "SUPPORT" with their attributes that work well with a support position. But it was men that built things, not women. 

This is too easy, my hardest time with you is picking which thing to refute because there are so many.  My OP clearly states "exponentially advancing weapons" which you wont address.  All you can focus on is that men build more things than women!  This is how ridiculous you sound:

Two farmers go into business together, for the sake of the argument they are both male.  Farmer A is extremely strong and good at building things, but he is not very careful, or perceptive.  Farmer B is much weaker than farmer A, but he is very perceptive, caring, nurturing.   Farmer A builds the fence, builds the shed, digs the irrigation canals, while farmer B plants all of the seeds, nurtures them, cares for them, makes sure they grow healthy and strong, and together they created a very successful farming operation.  

Ur just resorting back to insults. This is why no one should argue with u, u won't even address anything I say, ur a waste of time. If ur argument isn't about women being leaders then why in the world did u label it that way. U've literally ignored everything i said saying it's logical fallacies when it's not. 

 

This was an incredibly easy debate for me, not challenging in the slightest, u urself don't even know what ur talking about. If ur point isn't that women are better leaders, or anything similar to that then u've proven my point, thanks.

I've literally addressed everything you have said, with patience and understanding.  I see you keep trying to pull us off on tangents though, so I will give you one last try.  So far everything you have said up until this point has been proven as a logical fallacy or erroneous to the discussion.

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I told you a long time ago, that this discussion was SUPPOSED to be about changing out the evil people in charge and reducing some of the corruption in power.  You responded to that by calling me stupid... haha

But alas I will give you this chance to REFUTE MY OP! Here it is, to refresh your memory Women have been treated as less-than-equals for thousands of years, yet they are the ones that give birth, protect our babies, and do most of the child-raising , they are the reason we haven't already gone extinct from relentless genocide.  They are the nurturing, conservative, preservation-based counterparts to our aggressive impulsive violent selves.  A balance of the two was needed for most of our evolution, perhaps it was best for survival for men to be in charge back then, but now, and surviving in the future with exponentially-advancing weapons, perhaps it is safer for the survival of the human race if mostly women ran the world for a while. 

*And please do not try to "refute" this again by saying that men have built more things, and therefore they are the reason society is so great, seriously? You can do better.*

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Thank you for asking.   My message is that with the current selfish evil people in charge, and our exponentially advancing weapons, that we are on a path to self-extinction.  My provocative proposal is that putting women in charge may not be just a refreshing change, and somewhat fair, but also might be what we need to survive extinction.  

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Removing the CURRENT evil people from power is NOT impossible.  It may be difficult, but so is ANY radical change.  Saying it is impossible and doing nothing about it doesn't get us any closer to actually accomplishing it.  Talking about it, making it widely-known, teaching people that their government is likely controlled/influenced by people behind curtains that don't have their best interests in mind, this is likely the first step in actually creating any kind of change.   Eventually these evil people won't need most of us anyway.  Manual labor needs will be eventually remedied almost entirely by robots. Who knows what problems general purpose AI will solve and/or create.  Things are going to change a lot in just the next 10-20 years, and if the evil powers that be aren't removed or replaced soon, they will be basically invincible.   

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Corruption only succeeds when the people in power get away with things the public does not know about or is tricked into believing in them.  Transparency solves this.  If everything you do or say is 24/7 recorded then it will be hard to get away with much evil.  What we need is a global media platform that  is for the people and reaches most of the world, one that isn't directly controlled by the evil people in charge.  What we need is an informed public.  The majority of people have some type of respect, trust and/or fear for their government.  This needs to change.  The government needs to be afraid of and in fear of the people!

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Here in america there is so much disinformation and distraction spread by the mass media.  Here in America we have politicians that have very little accountability to be honest to the public.  A politician can focus an entire campaign on promises that get him/her the maximum votes, and once elected has nearly 0 obligation to fulfill ANY campaign promises.  Truth and transparency in the mass media solves this as well.

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Corruption only succeeds when the people in power get away with things the public does not know about or is tricked into believing in them.  Transparency solves this.  If everything you do or say is 24/7 recorded then it will be hard to get away with much evil.  What we need is a global media platform that  is for the people and reaches most of the world, one that isn't directly controlled by the evil people in charge.  What we need is an informed public.  The majority of people have some type of respect, trust and/or fear for their government.  This needs to change.  The government needs to be afraid of and in fear of the people!

I dont think you understand WHO, is corrupt with power. It's not the government or presidents like Donald trump etc, it's people we dont even know exist, u can't expect these people to have transparacy with you, they're keeping low for a reason, it's impossible to demand for something like transparacy.

Oh trust me, I agree with you.  But when the FIGUREHEADS get exposed, in a REAL way, the public will become ENRAGED to know even 1/2 of what is really going on. They won't settle for simply a new figurehead.  For example if the majority of the american public believed that 9/11 was an inside job, well, it wouldn't be too hard to convince them to overthrow the current government entirely, and in doing so they will find out who these figureheads are actually answering to.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5NvKpJfKE  He seems extremely distracted before, and not very surprised afterwards.   

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(On a side note, throughout this entire thread, why didn't u earlier advise me more than once what u actually wanna discuss, and then continue to lead me on saying what i was saying was logical fallacies?. I thought u were talking about women, didn't know u were talking about this corruption topic. Just shows u want to troll).

You never cared to look or ask what I wanted to discuss, and you would pop in randomly, ignoring what we were currently discussing, to continue your tangents, misrepresentation of my points, personal attacks, etc.  I would suggest in the future you follow the topic matter with more diligence to avoid this friction.  And no the quest for truth is not impossible.   it is DIFFICULT.

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Correction. It IS impossible. In this current climate it is, because of the examples I gave.

Updated correction of faulty correction.  It IS possible.  FOR EXAMPLE, if you could somehow prove to the majority of americans that 9/11 was an inside job, other truths would start tumbling out, hundreds of people would be put on trial and some might even be sentenced to death! Most Americans don't want to believe that their government is capable of such a thing so they will really need the proof shoved in their faces.   

"it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"

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No I am exhausted and I need to go to sleep soon.

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Correction. It IS impossible. In this current climate it is, because of the examples I gave.

Updated correction of faulty correction.  It IS possible.  FOR EXAMPLE, if you could somehow prove to the majority of americans that 9/11 was an inside job, other truths would start tumbling out, hundreds of people would be put on trial and some might even be sentenced to death! Most Americans don't want to believe that their government is capable of such a thing so they will really need the proof shoved in their faces.   

"it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"

Doesn't your quote at the end there just contradict you. "If you could somehow prove" see the problem? That "somehow" DOESN'T exist, if it did someone would of done it by now. Yes your concept sounds great, prove to people these things and everything will become easy to see, what i'm arguing is that initial exposure is IMPOSSIBLE, at least for a while. 

I'm going to bed soon, we can finish this later.  But impossible?? Virtually nothing is "impossible".  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcz_kDCBTBk

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and in fact, not only is mass exposure very possible, it is virtually an inevitability 

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I said virtually nothing... key word modifier.  

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Eventually future technology might allow us to travel faster than the speed of light, to receive data faster than the speed of light, or to pull light away from vast distances.  

My point here is light has been bouncing off of earth for the entire duration of human history.  This light is currently traveling throughout space.  If we can find a way to catch up to this light, travel to it, slow it down, etc, remove distortion and turn it into images, we can literally see the history of earth...  And who knows the possibilities of the future we might even be able to see it in super high definition.  I restate VIRTUALLY ANYTHING is possible happy.png  

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it's also possible eventually there might be technology to decrypt DNA in a way that we can see how events shape our DNA and even further technology to synchronize millions of samples of this data and even read the DNA of dead people to gain information on actual events! also it is possible that we are living in a simulation or an experiment of some sort and all of our events are being recorded anyway. all of these things are POSSIBLE, whatever their degree of probability is, is purely subjective with our limited data

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and we might not even have to travel faster than the speed of light, if we can suck light back towards us, or recieve light information through some type of quantum entanglement future technology. also we will have technology (if we don't already have it) that is a 99.9999999%+ accurate lie detector

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