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Fair point mithras, and neither would I if they have no knowledge on the subject, I only ask that they consider what i am saying, if they disagree i would like to know why without the criticism, if i am wrong on a subject i would be the first one to reconsider. I actually discounted everythig i am talking about at one point and there was even a time i wouldnt even consider these matters, painting them as ridiculous. However in light of much evidence and far too many coincidences I took the time to look further, I had knowledge of certain secret societies before all of this and the lore of such groups is rooted in ancient hidden knowledge, I suggest that these groups know just what i am talking about and these are the "secrets" they hold to their chests. Some of what i say is theory only because it isnt proven yet, similar to the belief that earth was round when the world was ignorant to the truth despite ancient knowledge on the subject.

Have you read sitchin?

Here is a quote from sitchin of "startling documented proof of the existence of extraterrestrial gods who changed the course of human development"

"Thousnds of years agothey came to earth to usher in mankinds first new age of scientific growth and spiritual enlightenment. Under their guidance, human civilisation flourished - as revolutionary advance in art, science and thought swept through the inhabited world. Ancient visitors from the heavens, they left behind stone circles that function as astronomical computers, calenders that measure time in thousands of years, and a guide to the zodiacal time that links man to the heavens."

I've read some interviews with Sitchin, yes. I've watched some interviews with him. Your point?

My point is that you cant comment on sitchin after only reading a couple of interviews with him. I point you towards his earth chronicles series although i am aware that 7 books might be too much effort for you.

Read them and you will be in a better position to comment as he DOES state these matters as undisputable fact after presenting all the evidence of 50 years of research.

I didn't get that impression from him. If he does state his theories as fact, then you're only following a another fake prophet. But, you've said nothing to indicate that you are at all trustworthy on the matter. On the contrary, you more than likely misread him.

So give me a quote from Sitchin where he states "these matters as indisputable fact".

I just gave you a quote for christ sake. Im not the one thats commenting on someone ive never read here, now you assume I misread him. What makes you so all knowing you STILL havent made one post with any semblance of relevance. What is the point in me replying to your posts when you refuse to understand.

"Thousnds of years agothey came to earth to usher in mankinds first new age of scientific growth and spiritual enlightenment. Under their guidance, human civilisation flourished - as revolutionary advance in art, science and thought swept through the inhabited world. Ancient visitors from the heavens, they left behind stone circles that function as astronomical computers, calenders that measure time in thousands of years, and a guide to the zodiacal time that links man to the heavens."

This?^^^

 The above quote is NOT Sitchin stating his beliefs as "indisputable fact", silly. These are flowery prose to put on a book jacket! Oh my! You are hilarious!

So human society was originally run by mysterious god-creatures from another planet, huh? Wow, I never knew that; I always used to think that everybody except you was right, not the other way around. Thank you for your enlightening and convincing post.

Here's an interesting tidbit:

"In a 1979 review of The Twelfth Planet, Roger W. Wescott,Prof. of Anthropology and Linguistics at Drew University, Madison, New Jersey, noted Sitchin's amateurishness with respect to the primacy of the Sumerian language:

Sitchin's linguistics seems at least as amateurish as his anthropology, biology, and astronomy. On p. 370, for example, he maintains that "all the ancient languages . . . including early Chinese . . . stemmed from one primeval source -- Sumerian". Sumerian, of course, is the virtual archetype of what linguistic taxonomists call a language-isolate, meaning a language that does not fall into any of the well-known language-families or exhibit clear cognation with any known language. Even if Sitchin is referring to written rather than to spoken language, it is unlikely that his contention can be persuasively defended, since Sumerian ideograms were preceded by the Azilian and Tartarian signaries of Europe as well as by a variety of script-like notational systems between the Nile and Indus rivers."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin

"To establish his supremacy on earth, marduk proceeded to establish his supremacy in the heavens. A major vehicle to that end was the all important annual new year celebration, when the epic of creation was read publicly. It was a tradition whose purpose was to acquaint the populace not only with the basic cosmology and the tale of evolution and the arrival of the anunnaki, but also as a way to state andreinstate the basic religious tenets regarding gods and men.

The epic of creation was thus a useful and powerful vehicle for indoctrination and reindoctrination; and as one of his first actsmarduk instituted one of the greatest forgeries ever: the creation of a babylonian version of the epic in which the name "marduk" was substituted for the name "nibiru". It was thus marduk, as a celestial god, who had appeared from outer space, battled tiamat, created the hammered out bracelet (the asteroid belt) and earth of tiamats halves, rearranged the solar system, and became the great god whose orbit encircles and embraces "as a loop" the orbits of all the other celestial gods (planets), making them subordinate to marduks majesty. All the ensuing celestial stations, orbits, cycles and phenomena were thus the masterworks of marduk: it was he who detemined divine time by his orbit, celestial time by defining the constellations, and earthly time by giving earth its orbital position and tilt. It was he too who had deprived kingu, tiamats chief satellite, of its emerging independant orbit and made it a satellite of the earth, the moon, to wax and wane and usher in the months.

In so rearranging the heavens marduk did not forget to settle some personal accounts. In the past nibiru, as the home planet of the anunnaki, was the abode of Anu and thus associated with him"........

Taken from Z. Sitchins, "When Time began" book 5 of the earth chronicles.

Fair comment, however im assuming that you do not know the origin of language and cannot read cuneiform text. Therefor how can you assume that this i9s not one scholar attempting to discredit another, which is often done? Ever since the dawn of man attempts have been made to keep man in the dark. Imagine sitchin as the serpent in eden who wanted you to see the light. Also my views and ideas do not solely come from sitchin, erich von daaniken or anyone else, many of my conclusions i had arrived at before i had ever heard of these people.

Hilarious! I am not reading that crap! I already read the Bible, some of the Torah, and some of the Quran, and that poop from Earth Chronicles reads just as silly.

I think I already pointed out pages ago, that you were advocating just another religion. This is clearly the case.

You now have a lengthy quote, as you asked for, you claimed i misread it to begin with, i provide you a quote and you of all people try to discredit sitchin without reading a word of his claims, insted you type his name into google and post the first bit of criticism you can find, where is you thinking in all of this? I am not going to waste any more time replying to your posts, however anybody with a mind they are able to think with is free to ask me anything they like.

Where is my thinking?

exactly. Thats what i said. So where is it? I point out that you still havent made ONE relevant post, but its futile isnt it?

Doesnt religion involve worship? blind faith? spending money? There is nothing here to indicate i am promoting any religion whatsoever as it was religion that really created the blind. Whats your excuse if not religion? I am aware of how and why religion started, I have read all of the books you mentioned as well as others. And in all of them there are references to nibiru and the anunnaki.

I suspect that a "relevant post" for you, is someone drooling all over your brilliant understanding of.....well I don't know what, but I'm sure you understand something. And whatever that something is, I promise to drool over it. Just not in this thread.

But you have proven to be quite the debunker of the Ancient Alien theory!

I personally think that aliens have visited this planet in the past, and are probably visiting it now. But just because you're a vegetarian, doesn't mean I want to have dinner with you