Are Guns Evil?

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Thanks. Yes Einsteins statement is pretty cool. The interesting thing is that many many people think the universe is endless AND believe in god. The problem is this is a contradiction. When the universe is endless there cant be any god who stands above it. You can notice this upon many people, its very interesting.

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Rick-Rairdon wrote:

Till_98, Do I think the universe is endless?   From God's point of view not at all because He made it.  Then my answer is no.  The bible also teaches this earth will be distroyed by fire and He will create a new one that has not been corrupted by the effects of sin.

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Do research about people killed by guns in countries where is easy buy guns vs contries where the use of guns is restricted.

And someone with your avatar shouldn't call anything idiotic. Is hard to find something more stupid than that.

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Not all muslims are terrorists you know? In fact, only a small % of them are, like a small % of christians are terrorists. Generalizing only lead us to more hate.

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Till_98 wrote:

Guns are evil. Why are guns made? With the obvious purpose of killing other people. But what do Americans say? Guns are coooooooooooool...

USA is murder capital of the G7 countries. Guns are ok for hunters and people who need them for their profession. Some people would carry a .45 because a bear could sneak up on them while they're doing their work,but people in Chicago are allowed to carry concealed weapons. That's nuts! If you can stand outside spin around in a complete circle,and there are people down range in every direction,why shouldn't guns be controlled and limited in that area?

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Switzerland is the exception of the norm, what about all the other countries in Europe? What about Japan?

You're the only aggressive retarded here.

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Guns are not evil. Guns are tools. Many people on many places use them to hunt. They are useful and can be shot for fun. Target practice is very entertaining. Shooting is in the Olympics. I agree that people can do bad things with many tools.

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Here in America it is our Constitutional right to own guns. We own them for use as sport to hunt with, for entertainment to improve our shooting skills, and, yes, if need be (and the vast majority of us pray we never have to) defend our lives and the lives of our families from those that would try to take what is ours from us. Guns are not made specifically to kill people though they certainly can be used for that purpose. Historically, countries where private ownership of guns is illegal have a higher crime rate where guns are used in the commission of crimes. Also, historically, countries where guns were taken away from the people and only police and military had them have resulted in millions of deaths at the hands of tyrannical governments. So, Till_98 and Suravira, and all you others that think guns are evil, keep on thinking that, because this is one "gun crazy American" that will sleep very soundly tonight knowing that my Colt is fully loaded and very close at hand. By the way, I hope you sleep well tonight knowing that the criminals where you live are unarmed like you.

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balente wrote:

Suravira wrote:

Do research about people killed by guns in countries where is easy buy guns vs contries where the use of guns is restricted.

And someone with your avatar shouldn't call anything idiotic. Is hard to find something more stupid than that.

This post is so idiotic its funny. I done more research than you can dream about. Guns are restricted in Brazil. Also in Russia. What is the murder rate in those countries, retard? Gun ownership is almost 100% in Switzerland and Israel. What is murder rate there, moron? Fuck off until you actually know something.

There should be a law prohibiting a guy like this from owning a gun.

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Wilkes1949 escribió:

Suravira, and all you others that think guns are evil, keep on thinking that

Sorry, or you didn't understand me or i wasn't clear. I never said guns are evil. I said guns are tools, and are very dangerous. And i think civilians shouldn't be able to have guns. Countries where weapons are rare are safer where countries where guns are common, that is a fact.

If it would be up to me, the possesion of guns should be like a black belt, train hard for a few years, mind and body, learn auto control, pass a lot of tests, and then you can have your gun. But on the contrary, any random Joe can have his gun with minimun effort.

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balente wrote:
Feufollet wrote:

You hear about toddlers accidentally killing parents/siblings  or that 9 y.o. girl killing her instructor with an uzi...

You can flush the "people are evil" argument down the toilet.

It Evil - no question about it.

Also you hear about childrens causing car accidents. So cars also must be evil. Right, retard?

Are you stupid?

Or is it just that your English is as good as the scarcity of neurons in your brain?

I was referring to the idiotic argument of gun proponents saying that guns aren't evil but the people who pull the trigger are. If we're to follow that argument then they are saying those kids are evil,...get it?

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Suravira wrote:

Switzerland is the exception of the norm, what about the all the other countries in Europe? What about Japan?

You're the only aggressive retarded here.

He's the only troll on chess.com I've blocked. He's neanderthally agressive...it speaks volumes to the level of intellect that's functioning in his brain...zilch.

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Till_98 wrote:
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Oh boy, BOHICA (Bend Over... HERE IS COMES AGAIN). More Europeons, jealous that they don't have the same right that Americans enjoy, chiming in with their "Americans are just gun crazy" nonsense...

? you dont seem to understand. I dont want a weapon because it is stupid shit.

Yes, people love to mock that which they are incapable of understanding. And you cannot understand something which you aren't even allowed to try in many European countries. For them it is the ultimate Catch 22. For others, in countries where their freedoms are still intact, you find people who look down their noses at that which they do not understand, refuse to even give it a try, all from a naive fear. They think firearms should be demonized. Do you think knives (including your kitchen knives) and bows are "stupid shit" as well? How about penicillin? People out of ignorance and/or fear of taking a medication derived from common mold spores thought that was "stupid shit", too. It's amazing how many things can be "stupid shit" to those who are too far gone to even give something a fair chance. Nope, just read those news headlines and assume all guns are evil. Skip over the fact that MAN is evil, and MAN is controlling the gun, or that MAN could commit evil with countless other objects if guns didn't exist. Guess you are of the sort that forgets about the ancient history of mankind, huh? Nah, violence didn't exist until the Americans got their guns. Lovely way of thinking? No, it's just... sad. And people like you will always be around - Just like guns will always be around. Me, I enjoy my target shooting, my hunting (don't even think of talking down about hunting - Without it mankind would be a footnote in earth's history, and let's not forget about the bears and wolves and other creatures on this planet who are hunters, too), and I enjoy my right to self defense, not just from evil men, but from predators... Which I encounter in another of my passions: Going deep into the wilderness, among the hunters of men and animal alike, and feeling comfort knowing that I am safe from attack when vigilant of predators around me. Most of those animals will head for the hills upon seeing a human - But what if they don't? Nope, my trusty, and safe, high powered firearms are there to ensure that if crap hits the fan, it isn't my crap, it's the predators'.

But like I said, here it comes again... From the naive, the prejudiced, the people who can only follow their own false beliefs, cling to them desperately, because they don't know any better... or they are just a mere follower of the anti-gun crowd with no original thought in their entire body. Nope, just clamp onto those beliefs as gospel. That's a world I do not want to live in. Luckily, I don't. Tongue Out

Footnote: I sure had a great, enjoyable, and completely safe time today drilling holes in a piece of paper while sighting in my gun for tomorrow's hunt. And no one got hurt... Go figure. Just fun had by all, with more fun to look forward to. Money Mouth

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Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:

Till_98 wrote:

Guns are evil. Why are guns made? With the obvious purpose of killing other people. But what do Americans say? Guns are coooooooooooool...

USA is murder capital of the G7 countries. Guns are ok for hunters and people who need them for their profession. Some people would carry a .45 because a bear could sneak up on them while they're doing their work,but people in Chicago are allowed to carry concealed weapons. That's nuts! If you can stand outside spin around in a complete circle,and there are people down range in every direction,why shouldn't guns be controlled and limited in that area?

Because the 2 or 3 criminals in your immediate vicinity as you do your little 360 don't care if guns are allowed or not, that's why. In case you forgot, Chicago is a corrupt city full of violent gangs. Do you think if guns were banned that those same criminals would go "Oh, well crap... hmmm... Okay, guys lets go buy knives and bows, because the law says we can't have guns anymore!"... Nope, that same criminal is simply laughing, with a big grin, thinking "GOOD! If guns are banned, that means I'm safe from law abiding citizens who would otherwise refuse to be victims!" (as he cocks his fully automatic UZI and preps for his next robbery)

By the way, your "statistics" are skewed. Try inserting this extremely simple factor called "Per capita" in your beloved stats - If you're not too brainwashed to do that by this point... If you're capable of doing that, suddenly the stats make sense, don't they? Suddenly this seemingly grossly violent country... isn't exactly all that different, if not safer, than other countries. But wait, look who I'm talking to... a naive anti-gunner... OF COURSE YOU COULDN'T ADD PER CAPITA INTO YOUR BIASED STATISTICS!

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Good grief, man. I grew up in Chicago in the most criminally active area.

Did you or do you live in Chicago to be talking like you're an expert on this city?

Crime in that city today is nowhere near what they were 20 years ago.

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It's usually people who live nowhere near crime who are most subject to paranoid-psychosis, fearing for their lives like someone is going to break into their house at any moment.

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   I think having a gun for self defense or to overthrow an evil government is good. My second choice would be a machete. With a machete, you don't run out of ammo. The bad thing is that you can't throw them a 100 yards. So, I'll just go with the guns.

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Better to have a gun and not need it, than to not have a gun.....

and get robbed and perhaps worse by people like me.

Food for thought.

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Feufollet wrote:

It's usually people who live nowhere near crime who are most subject to paranoid-psychosis, fearing for their lives like someone is going to break into their house at any moment.

...or you can think of it this way: A person living in a rural country area can expect a response time after calling the police to be 15-20 minutes under the best of circumstances (a deputy is available, weather and traffic are good, and he speeds to the scen Code 3 at 90MPH). Heck, you can even expect a similar time frame in the middle of a typical city. So what would you rather have? A phone, or a tool that you can use to either force the attacker to go prone and lay still until the police eventually get to you? And if he fails to comply after fair warning and charges you with a knife or (Surprised) an illegally obtained firearm, would you want the phone, or your very own LEGALLY obtained firearm and the right to self-defense on your side?

Violent encounters take seconds - Police response takes minutes, sometimes even hours. I live in a region where the adjoining county has 2 deputies, versus the 22 they had a decade ago, and they advise citizens to arm themselves because their response time can be 2-4 hours - Thank to voters who decided to vote against public safety by year by year defeating tax bond measures that would have allowed their S.O. to up the level of deputies instead of laying off 20 of them, cutting jail capacity, and day by day not being able to incarcerate violent criminals beyong booking them into jail and immediately releasing them due to jail overcrowding... essentially asking them to promise to show up to court on a certain date through a piece of paper they get as they walk out the jail doors). But no, the anti-gun crowd both here and abroad have it ALL figured out... even when local deputies are saying with great emphasis "ARM YOURSELVES because we CANNOT protect you". Many of those people who voted down public safety bond measures are the same "head in the sand" people who chime in about how guns shouldn't exist.

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