Controversial Topic (Creation vs Evolution 2?)

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eryxc

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My topic:

Typically disbelievers imply Out of nothing, comes everything. So have you ever asked yourself, where the universe came from? Why everything exists instead of just nothing? So why does the universe exist instead of just nothing? Where did it come from? There must have been a cause which brought the universe into being. Also what the quantum theory of a superiority figure never created, but always living?

Whatever begins to exist has a cause, The universe began to exist therefore the universe has a cause

given that this is a fact we can draw a conclusion that from the very nature of the case, this cause must be a changeless, timeless and immaterial being which created the universe. It must be uncaused because we have seen that there cannot be an infinite regress of causes. It must be timeless and therefore changeless-at least without the universe-because it created time. Because it also created space, it must transcend space as well and therfore be immaterial, not physical.

hitthepin

Time to break all three rules!

MainframeSupertasker

Good explanation........ wow. I wish i could have read this earlier.

eryxc
hitthepin wrote:

Time to break all three rules!

Ok why. There are three basic rules! Literally! Like why

YTCrimsonChess

Hey

 

eryxc

Hello!

YTCrimsonChess

hows life?

 

JamesAgadir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a9FfyuoJ8c

This gives an interesting overview of the topic.

MainframeSupertasker

Then you're saying there was no start of the universe?

MainframeSupertasker

The actual substances of the universe can be 1)Matter 2)Energy 3)Antimatter 4)Some weird alien thing xD

HolographWars

Well, you can’t prove how the universe was first created, so no use arguing here.

eryxc

At least talk about it Holo?

regi-mental

a circle has no beginning

 

HolographWars
eryxc wrote:

At least talk about it Holo?

I would like to say the probability of a intelligent being-created Big Bang. Something never comes from nothing. The reason why I think a steady state theory is wrong is because it is implied that the universe existed eternally. However, the universe has finite bounds. There is good proof of a Blue Shift, the most powerful evidence of a constantly expanding universe.

I cannot prove anything here, but I just want to show some thoughts. No one has lived to see the beginnings of the universe.

thegreatauk
regi-mental wrote:

a circle has no beginning

 

Supposing the "universe" was "created" does that meanif we go around it in a circle eventually it will go into nothing and then reform again?

jaredjm
HolographWars wrote:
eryxc wrote:

At least talk about it Holo?

I would like to say the probability of a intelligent being-created Big Bang. Something never comes from nothing. The reason why I think a steady state theory is wrong is because it is implied that the universe existed eternally. However, the universe has finite bounds. There is good proof of a Blue Shift, the most powerful evidence of a constantly expanding universe.

I cannot prove anything here, but I just want to show some thoughts. No one has lived to see the beginnings of the universe.

I'd agree mostly; this is really all we as humans can know by ourselves. 

eryxc

True but what the quantum theory of a superiority figure never created, but always living?

regi-mental
thegreatauk wrote:
regi-mental wrote:

a circle has no beginning

 

Supposing the "universe" was "created" does that meanif we go around it in a circle eventually it will go into nothing and then reform again?

beats me, but that certainly seems possible.

big bang-expansion-contraction-big crush repeat.

jaredjm

but where did the big bang come from?

HolographWars
jaredjm wrote:

but where did the big bang come from?

From an intelligent being who created the world, to say it is random chance is meaningless because spontaneous generation has been REFUTED. For some reason scientists still believe in it, though it was disproven in the nineteenth century.

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