Covid-19 Discussion (moderated)

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DiogenesDue
Marie-AnneLiz wrote:
Despite FDA Warnings, Trump Says He's Been Taking Hydroxychloroquine For Weeks :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldg25c6qGn8

Yeah, I saw that... :/

IM_GGnoRE
Marie-AnneLiz wrote:
Despite FDA Warnings, Trump Says He's Been Taking Hydroxychloroquine For Weeks :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldg25c6qGn8

Wow, but to each their own.

Marie-AnneLiz

Trump Cuts National Guard Deployment A Day Short Of Benefits Accrual :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-YXD0fH1rQ

Marie-AnneLiz

KingAxelson

Ok alright I'll think about it

DiogenesDue
KingAxelson wrote:

Think about what?  How is Alex Jones still not in jail for selling fake Coronavirus cures?

KingAxelson
btickler wrote:
KingAxelson wrote:

Think about what?  How is Alex Jones still not in jail for selling fake Coronavirus cures?

Open mind to nuggets in the article, it's called sifting. Just because he's a pompous *** does not mean you can't find something of value there. Since when is Iodine bad for you? Doesn't matter, I'm not promoting his products anyway. (The link to your news source is laughable.)

DiogenesDue
Marie-AnneLiz wrote:
Trump Cuts National Guard Deployment A Day Short Of Benefits Accrual :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-YXD0fH1rQ

Is this outbreak related?  I haven't watched it (yet).

DiogenesDue
KingAxelson wrote:

Open mind to nuggets in the article, it's called sifting. Just because he's a pompous *** does not mean you can't find something of value there. Since when is Iodine bad for you? Doesn't matter, I'm not promoting his products anyway. (The link to your news source is laughable.)

I see.  So, NY Times= laughable and Infowars = nuggets of wisdom? happy.png

I also see you are attending the recently popular "what could it hurt, give it a try" school of medicine. 

If you've sifted, feel free to produce some nuggets.

KingAxelson
btickler wrote:
KingAxelson wrote:

Open mind to nuggets in the article, it's called sifting. Just because he's a pompous *** does not mean you can't find something of value there. Since when is Iodine bad for you? Doesn't matter, I'm not promoting his products anyway. (The link to your news source is laughable.)

I see.  So, NY Times= laughable and Infowars = nuggets of wisdom?

I also see you are attending the recently popular "what could it hurt, give it a try" school of medicine. 

If you've sifted, feel free to produce some nuggets.

lol why not?

1. If you think that what is going on in the world today is about bat soup, then I will personally sing you a lullaby.

2. Who has to gain by what is going on the world today? Have you looked at the problem from that angle yet?

3.  Have you completely forgotten that were not really privy to what is really going on behind the scenes? 

DiogenesDue
KingAxelson wrote:

lol why not?

1. If you think that what is going on in the world today is about bat soup, then I will personally sing you a lullaby.

2. Who has to gain by what is going on the world today? Have you looked at the problem from that angle yet?

3.  Have you completely forgotten that were not really privy to what is really going on behind the scenes? 

Those are not nuggets of information, they are questions and assertions...and bad ones.  This thread isn't for implied conspiracies with no factual support.

Do you have anything you want to discuss about the outbreak that is factual and/or that comes from a reputable news source?  I'm fairly lenient on that front, but Infowars is not going to cut it.

RonaldJosephCote

   On Marie's post about the National Guard...."Is this outbreak related?  I haven't watched it (yet)".     Yes.....National Guard would not have been activated if virus never occured.  Basically Trump is screwing those soldiers. He's having them do all the dirty work for 89 days. The law says you don't get benifits unless you've been activated for 90 days...frustrated.png

Marie-AnneLiz
RonaldJosephCote a écrit :

   On Marie's post about the National Guard...."Is this outbreak related?  I haven't watched it (yet)".     Yes.....National Guard would not have been activated if virus never occured.  Basically Trump is screwing those soldiers. He's having them do all the dirty work for 89 days. The law says you don't get benifits unless you've been activated for 90 days...

Yes 40 000 of them are helping now!

Wolfbird

Alex Jones's "nuggets" are the equivalent to what my dog leaves on my neighbor's yard.

Marie-AnneLiz
Wolfbird a écrit :

Alex Jones's "nuggets" are the equivalent to what my dog leaves on my neighbor's yard.

DiogenesDue
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

   On Marie's post about the National Guard...."Is this outbreak related?  I haven't watched it (yet)".     Yes.....National Guard would not have been activated if virus never occured.  Basically Trump is screwing those soldiers. He's having them do all the dirty work for 89 days. The law says you don't get benifits unless you've been activated for 90 days...

Thanks.  That makes sense (the connection to the outbreak, not what is happening wink.png...).

hankstevenson
btickler wrote:

Best links for up-to-date Covid-19 outbreak numbers:

Worldometer's Coronavirus page:

John Hopkins University - Coronavirus Outbreak Map

They have exact count showing country wise with total number of recovered cases and everthing.

Thanks for sharing man!

Wolfbird

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/498904-us-could-have-avoided-36000-deaths-if-social-distancing-implemented-a-week

DiogenesDue

Along those lines...

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6920e2.htm?s_cid=mm6920e2_e&deliveryName=USCDC_921-DM28842

This CDC case study documents in great detail a case where 2 infected people at a church event infected 35 out of 90 other people during a 5 day period.  Community spread was tracked to 26 other people directly from there, and there were 3 deaths from the church event, and 1 from the trackable community spread. 

This is a sterling example of how high the transmission rate is for people that are not following social distancing guidelines.  This was a rural Arkansas community in a town of 25,000 people, by the way, not in NY/NJ or something.

Confused-psyduck

https://www.france24.com/en/20200521-half-of-canadians-fooled-by-covid-19-conspiracy-theories-study

 

France24 was credited as a reliable source of information by Marie-Anne Liz, so I guess this information this is not some so called "Chinese propaganda" as I was accused to do.

 

Although the survey was only made on 2000 people, which is not a lot for this kind of survey, it is still interesting to see that a country with "best journalism" has still a huge issue with misinformation. One number which is very interesting is that 26% of the people surveyed said that they believe the virus, I quote "was engineered as a bioweapon in a Chinese lab and released into the general population ". Are there some bad feelings towards China floating in the air?

One can still make a case for Chinese people believing in conspiracy theories, 95% of them watch TikTok all the time and are nationalist at heart, and the information the government provides can be "tampered with". But, I think we can also make a case on the fact that, at least during this pandemic, misinformation is king in the west, even in the USA and Canada who are bth countries who take pride in free and honest journalism.

Therefore, I still do not deny journalism is not great here (it sucks) and that Uighurs are imprisoned, people's rights lawyers too etc... However, maybe some of the people in this discussion could reflect on whether journalism is as impartial and as great as they think, for I believe that during this pandemic it has been shown quite clearly that not everything is perfect in that matter in western countries.

Yes, there is misinformation in China (and thanks to some people for blasting me with their links about HOW BAD IS CHINA) - I know misinformation is widespread here - but it turns out there is in the west too. And misinformation is bad anywhere it happens, and its influence and negative force is sadly heightened during this time of pandemic.

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