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Dec 27, 2021
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#1023
UnclePeet wrote:
I mean we could just say canons OBVIOUSLY existed and had no restriction so of course we should be able to own them. Right?
Sure, I guess I could use that to argue against you that just because something was practical 100s of years ago doesn't make it practical today.
It doesn’t matter. You are assuming an incredible amount in order to justify your position which should be a crazy red flag.
It’s very clear ALL Americans had firearms during the founders lifetimes. It’s clear there were NO restrictions on any including galleys and canons.
It’s clear that Today knives kill FAR more ppl in America than all types of rifles combined. Indisputable fact.
We are left with single shot handguns that are the culprit. You have s very long road trying to prove the founders would not want citizens owning simple revolvers who’s technology hasn’t changed in nearly 200 years.
It’s very clear ALL Americans had firearms during the founders lifetimes. It’s clear there were NO restrictions on any including galleys and canons.
It’s clear that Today knives kill FAR more ppl in America than all types of rifles combined. Indisputable fact.
We are left with single shot handguns that are the culprit. You have s very long road trying to prove the founders would not want citizens owning simple revolvers who’s technology hasn’t changed in nearly 200 years.
I think you had to pull the hammer back manually for each revolver shot back then
These simplistic arguments have been argued and brushed aside for a century before Scalia ever thought of them.
Gun free zones are amongst the most dangerous places and inner cities are nit among the poorest places in America.
Rural red states are.
Gun free zones are amongst the most dangerous places and inner cities are nit among the poorest places in America.
Rural red states are.
Dec 27, 2021
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#1027
UnclePeet wrote:
It’s very clear ALL Americans had firearms during the founders lifetimes. It’s clear there were NO restrictions on any including galleys and canons.
I assume most people were too poor.
When you say all Americans had firearms what are you basing that on?
UnclePeet wrote:
It’s clear that Today knives kill FAR more ppl in America than all types of rifles combined. Indisputable fact.
Thankfully the number of people knives kill is irrelevant to my argument.
Also, knives are easier to excuse since they have other practical uses.
For example cars kill people, but very nearly zero people buy a car with the idea of killing someone... the reverse is true of guns. Practically everyone buys a gun with the idea of killing someone. Maybe not a specific someone, but with the idea that it may be useful to kill someone in the future.
Try arguing the same “technology has changed” argument with the 1st amendment and see where that gets you.
Dec 27, 2021
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#1029
UnclePeet wrote:
Gun free zones are amongst the most dangerous places and inner cities are nit among the poorest places in America.
Gun free zones are amongst the most dangerous places and inner cities are nit among the poorest places in America.
Isn't that a bit like saying "hospitals are the highest concentration of sick people, therefore modern medicine is a failure"
heh.
I mean, it makes sense you'd try to impose a gun free zone only on the most violent places.
KyloAPPROVES wrote:
Handguns are also cheaper most of the time, aren't they?
It depends what you buy. Most quality handguns cost more than a similar quality rifle by a few hundred dollars. However, there are cheaper versions of both if you go to lesser known brands and/or lower quality.
No, you can't reasonably conceal any average and legal rifle by sticking it down your pants. It would be so noticeable and you'd walk so strangely that it would be fairly obvious.
A small but irritating point with me is how so many people just say AR-15 for any of over a dozen different rifles. Only Colt makes the AR-15. Other almost identical (especially to a layman) rifles are made by Bushmaster, Barrett, DPMS Panther, Remington, Mossberg, Smith & Wesson, Springfield Armory, Ruger, etc., none of which are called AR anything.
Dec 27, 2021
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#1031
UnclePeet wrote:
Try arguing the same “technology has changed” argument with the 1st amendment and see where that gets you.
I have no problem with free speech or a well regulated militia 
Incorrect again this is a lame argument that’s been debunked a thousand times:
Cars kill people in ACCIDENTS.
Knives MURDER ppl abs it’s nut steak knives too often.
If you don’t understand the difference do some reading and get back to me.
Cars kill people in ACCIDENTS.
Knives MURDER ppl abs it’s nut steak knives too often.
If you don’t understand the difference do some reading and get back to me.
Dec 27, 2021
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#1033
UnclePeet wrote:
Incorrect again this is a lame argument that’s been debunked a thousand times:
Cars kill people in ACCIDENTS.
Knives MURDER ppl abs it’s nut steak knives too often.
If you don’t understand the difference do some reading and get back to me.
Cars kill people in ACCIDENTS.
Knives MURDER ppl abs it’s nut steak knives too often.
If you don’t understand the difference do some reading and get back to me.
Cars were just an example, so let's try again.
Almost no one buys a knife with the idea of killing someone. The point is knives have many practical uses, so it's easier to excuse the number of people murdered by knives as the cost of doing business (so to speak).
I impose gun free zones as the most violent places because they are.
Not to be rude but does logic escape you or are you doing this on purpose?
Hospitals are where you go WHEN you are sick.
Cities and towns are where you live,
You’re telling me you’ve tried that sort of reasoning with a college professor and you weren’t set straight?
Not to be rude but does logic escape you or are you doing this on purpose?
Hospitals are where you go WHEN you are sick.
Cities and towns are where you live,
You’re telling me you’ve tried that sort of reasoning with a college professor and you weren’t set straight?
Dec 27, 2021
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#1035
UnclePeet wrote:
I impose gun free zones as the most violent places because they are.
Not to be rude but does logic escape you or are you doing this on purpose?
Hospitals are where you go WHEN you are sick.
Cities and towns are where you live,
You’re telling me you’ve tried that sort of reasoning with a college professor and you weren’t set straight?
Not to be rude but does logic escape you or are you doing this on purpose?
Hospitals are where you go WHEN you are sick.
Cities and towns are where you live,
You’re telling me you’ve tried that sort of reasoning with a college professor and you weren’t set straight?
I guess you didn't understand my argument, shrug*
's not that important to me anyway.
“Almost no one buys a knife with the idea of killing someone.”
And now you know ppls motivations.
Like magic.
Well I guess almost no one buys a gun with the intent of killing anyone. If you can say it abs it’s magically true then so can I.
And now you know ppls motivations.
Like magic.
Well I guess almost no one buys a gun with the intent of killing anyone. If you can say it abs it’s magically true then so can I.
I understood it was a poor comparison
Dec 27, 2021
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#1038
UnclePeet wrote:
“Almost no one buys a knife with the idea of killing someone.”
And now you know ppls motivations.
Like magic.
Well I guess almost no one buys a gun with the intent of killing anyone. If you can say it abs it’s magically true then so can I.
And now you know ppls motivations.
Like magic.
Well I guess almost no one buys a gun with the intent of killing anyone. If you can say it abs it’s magically true then so can I.
Sure, my language isn't 100% technical and exhaustive because this is a casual debate. We rely on each other to make reasonable assumptions about the other's words. It's very easy to make unreasonable assumptions and willfully misinterpret someone's statements... but at that point the debate is over and it's just childishness.
One french king from the 1880s use cannons for hunting deer, apparently