I'm not familiar with the term Klezmer or its implications.
Then you have a whole 'nother musical genre to explore!
I would be surprised to hear klezmer and bluegrass mentioned together except that we have a fiddler friend who plays klezmer and bluegrass and everything in between.
Morning Sarah. Perhaps not 100% on topic, but this article came immediately to mind.
https://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/ncc375/lang/index.html
Wow BG...thanks for outing Henry. Late 1800's/early 1900's history is so very interesting on many levels. Blues, Klezmer both use tonal 1/2 pitches, bless their hearts
I'm really not all that versed in the mathematics of music theory. I self-taught myself to read sheet music and to play by ear. I guess a 1/2 pitch is better than none.
I thought this was a marvelous and unique ensemble of talented musicians:
But these guys playing Tzena, Tzena, Tzena make you want to dance the hora:
Do Klezmer bands play Klezmer music?
I'm not familiar with the term Klezmer or its implications.
Then you have a whole 'nother musical genre to explore!
I would be surprised to hear klezmer and bluegrass mentioned together except that we have a fiddler friend who plays klezmer and bluegrass and everything in between.
Actually, some of the early jazz I've been listening to has been great.
I wonder what's between a Klezmer and a Bluegrass?
Morning Sarah. Perhaps not 100% on topic, but this article came immediately to mind.
Well...take me to school!
I had come across the name Eddie Lang but didn't know any of the rest. The article is somewhat coy about Sal/Eddie's name changes when it seems obvious he wanted to obscure his identity and/or race on certain records. I'm guessing he even obscured his Italian heritage to begin with in order to appeal to the Jewish music impresarios. "Blind Willie Dunn" sounds too much like Blind Lemon Jefferson that it seems he wanted people to think he was Black.
I really like his guitar playing, especially on the "Two Tone Stomp" with Lonnie Johnson and on Armstrong's Knockin' a Jug.
It's not in the article, but I think Eddie Lang's best work is when he plays with violinist/guitarist Joe Venuti (they grew up together, both playing the violin until Eddie/Sal switched to the banjo, then guitar).
He played one of Bessie Smith's "racy" records, as the article tells us. It's a great recording too. I'd amassed a group of "racy" recordings by female Blues singers and singer/players. They're mostly double-entendre but some are only vaguely concealed. I was thinking of making a posting but am hesitant. It's great music and exposes a different side of Blues.
Anyway, Eddie was only 30 when he died.
Your writing, and the breadth of your topics, never disappoint.
That's kind of you to say. Thanks.
Yeah, got to Eddie Lang via Bessie Smith, who also died prematurely - car accident if I remember rightly. Had a lot of The Venuti stuff on vinyl back many years ago. Something way off the subject on the Eddie Lang theme, with the great Frankie Vignola.
Yeah, got to Eddie Lang via Bessie Smith, who also died prematurely - car accident if I remember rightly. Had a lot of The Venuti stuff on vinyl back many years ago. Something way off the subject on the Eddie Lang theme, with the great Frankie Vignola.
Those guys are good!
Joscho Stephan seems to be just as good as Frank Vignola.
Great music and amazing virtuosity.
Ford was a genuine American original. He was criticized for living in the past (he was nostalgic about the childhood he fled), to which he replied, more or less accurately, “I invented the modern world.” He resisted hiring African Americans, but when he did start employing them, he was among the first major manufacturers to do so. He was the first employer to provide health insurance for his employees, but did so in ways that showed his concern for exerting greater control over their personal lives. He embodied many of the contradictions of his era.
His taste in music, naturally, expresses his prejudices.
Cosby’s book looks interesting.
I grew up with what is now called classic rock and still listen. Folk, Jazz, and Blues move me more today. As today is Friday, tonight I will be tuned into the Blues Show on KEWU, a local Jazz station. One of the highlights of my life was a night at Koko Taylor’s Blues Club with some friends from graduate school. One of them, a high school teacher in Chicago, was also the manager for the band performing that night, so we all got in as guests of the band. Blyther Smyth was the performer. He is the nephew of the great Delta Blues performer J.B. Lenoir.
Henry Ford's antisemitism is new to me, but there seems to be indications that he wasn't just a product of his time. see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm
His relationship with Blacks, unlike that with Jews whom he hated, feared and considered evil, espousing the same rhetoric as Hilter would later on (Ford's "Dearborn Independent" articles are chillling)., seems to have been one of a feeling that they were merely inferior and not worth hiring -- until hiring Blacks proved beneficial. If nothing else, Ford was a practical man.
Wow.....my blood boils. Your last sentence, calling him a practical man, is beyond generous. I would have said "Ford was practical." Let me explain.
To call someone of such prejudice a "man" is beyond generous. I have my own feeling of what a man is, and it includes a certain dignity, humility and good will towards others. It includes loving God and humanity.
I am reminded of a story of a famous woman from India; Mirabai. She was a great devotee of Lord Krishna. At one point she heard about a great Guru, and she wanted to study with him, to be his disciple. This Guru was also devoted to Lord Krishna.
She sent a request to be his disciple, and he answered that he did not accept women as disciples. So what did Mirabai do? She went to this Guru's ashram, stood in front of him and said,
"The only MAN that I see here is Lord Krishna!"
The Guru had to accept her as a disciple.
Great souls, whether they are Spiritual Masters, or saints, or even take on the role of ordinary people (a mother or father, brother, friend, grandmother, a teacher, etc....) show us, through their good qualities, what being a "man" or a "woman" really is; what being a human being really is.
It is more than just having a human body; it is about embodying certain values, a certain nobility of spirit, a humbleness that embraces others, instead of trying to lord it over others.
My favorite player, David Bronstein, expressed that he did not feel comfortable around rich people, because he noticed that, oftentimes, the fact that they had money made them feel superior to others.
I remember your post about the Coal Mine Wars, and how evil the owners of the coal mine were; how they would hire a hitman to kill workers trying to organize a union. These coal mine owners had a human body, but they behaved worse than animals; they were evil. This is NOT the true nature of us humans. We come from a higher Source, which is Love and Light.....but I am getting too "spiritual" for this or any other conversations on this site, or in social media in general.
Suffice it to say that the noblest qualities, the universal virtues of love, compassion, humility, are the type of qualities that define us as "human", or as man or woman, in my opinion.
You were very generous by calling him a "man".
Ford was a genuine American original. He was criticized for living in the past (he was nostalgic about the childhood he fled), to which he replied, more or less accurately, “I invented the modern world.” He resisted hiring African Americans, but when he did start employing them, he was among the first major manufacturers to do so. He was the first employer to provide health insurance for his employees, but did so in ways that showed his concern for exerting greater control over their personal lives. He embodied many of the contradictions of his era.
His taste in music, naturally, expresses his prejudices.
Cosby’s book looks interesting.
I grew up with what is now called classic rock and still listen. Folk, Jazz, and Blues move me more today. As today is Friday, tonight I will be tuned into the Blues Show on KEWU, a local Jazz station. One of the highlights of my life was a night at Koko Taylor’s Blues Club with some friends from graduate school. One of them, a high school teacher in Chicago, was also the manager for the band performing that night, so we all got in as guests of the band. Blyther Smyth was the performer. He is the nephew of the great Delta Blues performer J.B. Lenoir.
Henry Ford's antisemitism is new to me, but there seems to be indications that he wasn't just a product of his time. see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm
His relationship with Blacks, unlike that with Jews whom he hated, feared and considered evil, espousing the same rhetoric as Hilter would later on (Ford's "Dearborn Independent" articles are chillling)., seems to have been one of a feeling that they were merely inferior and not worth hiring -- until hiring Blacks proved beneficial. If nothing else, Ford was a practical man.
Wow.....my blood boils. Your last sentence, calling him a practical man, is beyond generous. I would have said "Ford was practical." Let me explain.
To call someone of such prejudice a "man" is beyond generous. I have my own feeling of what a man is, and it includes a certain dignity, humility and good will towards others. It includes loving God and humanity.
I am reminded of a story of a famous woman from India; Mirabai. She was a great devotee of Lord Krishna. At one point she heard about a great Guru, and she wanted to study with him, to be his disciple. This Guru was also devoted to Lord Krishna.
She sent a request to be his disciple, and he answered that he did not accept women as disciples. So what did Mirabai do? She went to this Guru's ashram, stood in front of him and said,
"The only MAN that I see here is Lord Krishna!"
The Guru had to accept her as a disciple.
Great souls, whether they are Spiritual Masters, or saints, or even take on the role of ordinary people (a mother or father, brother, friend, grandmother, a teacher, etc....) show us, through their good qualities, what being a "man" or a "woman" really is; what being a human being really is.
It is more than just having a human body; it is about embodying certain values, a certain nobility of spirit, a humbleness that embraces others, instead of trying to lord it over others.
My favorite player, David Bronstein, expressed that he did not feel comfortable around rich people, because he noticed that, oftentimes, the fact that they had money made them feel superior to others.
I remember your post about the Coal Mine Wars, and how evil the owners of the coal mine were; how they would hire a hitman to kill workers trying to organize a union. These coal mine owners had a human body, but they behaved worse than animals; they were evil. This is NOT the true nature of us humans. We come from a higher Source, which is Love and Light.....but I am getting too "spiritual" for this or any other conversations on this site, or in social media in general.
Suffice it to say that the noblest qualities, the universal virtues of love, compassion, humility, are the type of qualities that define us as "human", or as man or woman, in my opinion.
You were very generous by calling him a "man".
That's a nice sentiment, but humans are capable of bad things as well as good. It's part of what makes humans interesting and at times paradoxical. Having bad qualities doesn't make a person inhuman... quite the opposite.
In general, being a man means you're an adult male. It means you have an X and Y chromosome and are of a certain age.
Ford was a genuine American original. He was criticized for living in the past (he was nostalgic about the childhood he fled), to which he replied, more or less accurately, “I invented the modern world.” He resisted hiring African Americans, but when he did start employing them, he was among the first major manufacturers to do so. He was the first employer to provide health insurance for his employees, but did so in ways that showed his concern for exerting greater control over their personal lives. He embodied many of the contradictions of his era.
His taste in music, naturally, expresses his prejudices.
Cosby’s book looks interesting.
I grew up with what is now called classic rock and still listen. Folk, Jazz, and Blues move me more today. As today is Friday, tonight I will be tuned into the Blues Show on KEWU, a local Jazz station. One of the highlights of my life was a night at Koko Taylor’s Blues Club with some friends from graduate school. One of them, a high school teacher in Chicago, was also the manager for the band performing that night, so we all got in as guests of the band. Blyther Smyth was the performer. He is the nephew of the great Delta Blues performer J.B. Lenoir.
Henry Ford's antisemitism is new to me, but there seems to be indications that he wasn't just a product of his time. see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm
His relationship with Blacks, unlike that with Jews whom he hated, feared and considered evil, espousing the same rhetoric as Hilter would later on (Ford's "Dearborn Independent" articles are chillling)., seems to have been one of a feeling that they were merely inferior and not worth hiring -- until hiring Blacks proved beneficial. If nothing else, Ford was a practical man.
Wow.....my blood boils. Your last sentence, calling him a practical man, is beyond generous. I would have said "Ford was practical." Let me explain.
To call someone of such prejudice a "man" is beyond generous. I have my own feeling of what a man is, and it includes a certain dignity, humility and good will towards others. It includes loving God and humanity.
I am reminded of a story of a famous woman from India; Mirabai. She was a great devotee of Lord Krishna. At one point she heard about a great Guru, and she wanted to study with him, to be his disciple. This Guru was also devoted to Lord Krishna.
She sent a request to be his disciple, and he answered that he did not accept women as disciples. So what did Mirabai do? She went to this Guru's ashram, stood in front of him and said,
"The only MAN that I see here is Lord Krishna!"
The Guru had to accept her as a disciple.
Great souls, whether they are Spiritual Masters, or saints, or even take on the role of ordinary people (a mother or father, brother, friend, grandmother, a teacher, etc....) show us, through their good qualities, what being a "man" or a "woman" really is; what being a human being really is.
It is more than just having a human body; it is about embodying certain values, a certain nobility of spirit, a humbleness that embraces others, instead of trying to lord it over others.
My favorite player, David Bronstein, expressed that he did not feel comfortable around rich people, because he noticed that, oftentimes, the fact that they had money made them feel superior to others.
I remember your post about the Coal Mine Wars, and how evil the owners of the coal mine were; how they would hire a hitman to kill workers trying to organize a union. These coal mine owners had a human body, but they behaved worse than animals; they were evil. This is NOT the true nature of us humans. We come from a higher Source, which is Love and Light.....but I am getting too "spiritual" for this or any other conversations on this site, or in social media in general.
Suffice it to say that the noblest qualities, the universal virtues of love, compassion, humility, are the type of qualities that define us as "human", or as man or woman, in my opinion.
You were very generous by calling him a "man".
That's a nice sentiment, but humans are capable of bad things as well as good. It's part of what makes humans interesting and at times paradoxical. Having bad qualities doesn't make a person inhuman... quite the opposite.
In general, being a man means you're an adult male. It means you have an X and Y chromosome and are of a certain age.
Technically you are correct, but I consider it INHUMAN to treat others badly because of prejudice, or social status......
Reading what he wrote, it comes across to me as intensely stupid. I marvel at the mental state of anyone who can write or believe such things.
But at the same time, I take it as a cautionary tale about the sort of creature I am. I'm a human too. To reject an evil person as "inhuman" seems to me to not learn the lesson that "the potential for this lives inside of each of us."
All I can add is this quote--George Bernard Shaw — 'The more I see of the moneyed classes, the more I understand the guillotine.'
Hitler himself was concerned about Black and Jewish musical influences. Apparently the Nazis were afraid that many ordinary Germans preferred listening to Louis Armstrong instead of Wagner. Michael Meyer, Lynn Moller, Richard Etlin, and others have written on the Nazis' use of music and art for propaganda purposes. The Reichsmusikprüfstelle was set up to censor music in Nazi Germany.
Ford was a genuine American original. He was criticized for living in the past (he was nostalgic about the childhood he fled), to which he replied, more or less accurately, “I invented the modern world.” He resisted hiring African Americans, but when he did start employing them, he was among the first major manufacturers to do so. He was the first employer to provide health insurance for his employees, but did so in ways that showed his concern for exerting greater control over their personal lives. He embodied many of the contradictions of his era.
His taste in music, naturally, expresses his prejudices.
Cosby’s book looks interesting.
I grew up with what is now called classic rock and still listen. Folk, Jazz, and Blues move me more today. As today is Friday, tonight I will be tuned into the Blues Show on KEWU, a local Jazz station. One of the highlights of my life was a night at Koko Taylor’s Blues Club with some friends from graduate school. One of them, a high school teacher in Chicago, was also the manager for the band performing that night, so we all got in as guests of the band. Blyther Smyth was the performer. He is the nephew of the great Delta Blues performer J.B. Lenoir.
Henry Ford's antisemitism is new to me, but there seems to be indications that he wasn't just a product of his time. see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm
His relationship with Blacks, unlike that with Jews whom he hated, feared and considered evil, espousing the same rhetoric as Hilter would later on (Ford's "Dearborn Independent" articles are chillling)., seems to have been one of a feeling that they were merely inferior and not worth hiring -- until hiring Blacks proved beneficial. If nothing else, Ford was a practical man.
Wow.....my blood boils. Your last sentence, calling him a practical man, is beyond generous. I would have said "Ford was practical." Let me explain.
To call someone of such prejudice a "man" is beyond generous. I have my own feeling of what a man is, and it includes a certain dignity, humility and good will towards others. It includes loving God and humanity.
I am reminded of a story of a famous woman from India; Mirabai. She was a great devotee of Lord Krishna. At one point she heard about a great Guru, and she wanted to study with him, to be his disciple. This Guru was also devoted to Lord Krishna.
She sent a request to be his disciple, and he answered that he did not accept women as disciples. So what did Mirabai do? She went to this Guru's ashram, stood in front of him and said,
"The only MAN that I see here is Lord Krishna!"
The Guru had to accept her as a disciple.
Great souls, whether they are Spiritual Masters, or saints, or even take on the role of ordinary people (a mother or father, brother, friend, grandmother, a teacher, etc....) show us, through their good qualities, what being a "man" or a "woman" really is; what being a human being really is.
It is more than just having a human body; it is about embodying certain values, a certain nobility of spirit, a humbleness that embraces others, instead of trying to lord it over others.
My favorite player, David Bronstein, expressed that he did not feel comfortable around rich people, because he noticed that, oftentimes, the fact that they had money made them feel superior to others.
I remember your post about the Coal Mine Wars, and how evil the owners of the coal mine were; how they would hire a hitman to kill workers trying to organize a union. These coal mine owners had a human body, but they behaved worse than animals; they were evil. This is NOT the true nature of us humans. We come from a higher Source, which is Love and Light.....but I am getting too "spiritual" for this or any other conversations on this site, or in social media in general.
Suffice it to say that the noblest qualities, the universal virtues of love, compassion, humility, are the type of qualities that define us as "human", or as man or woman, in my opinion.
You were very generous by calling him a "man".
That's a nice sentiment, but humans are capable of bad things as well as good. It's part of what makes humans interesting and at times paradoxical. Having bad qualities doesn't make a person inhuman... quite the opposite.
In general, being a man means you're an adult male. It means you have an X and Y chromosome and are of a certain age.
Technically you are correct, but I consider it INHUMAN to treat others badly because of prejudice, or social status......
You are meeting prejudice with bigotry, emasculating those with whom you disagree.
You are meeting prejudice with bigotry, emasculating those with whom you disagree.
Yeah, that's the main thing... it's really comfortable to hate people we disagree with.
I'm not a religious person myself, but whatever code a person follows, I suspect that they'll agree: having love only for those who are lovable is not what's truly noble.
huyuu
I'm no expert at music, in fact I could enjoy seasons without any at all, save the tunes of the heart. One of the reasons I enjoy some jazz lately is because I can't stand to listen to repetitive, predictable 'studio' music more than twice. It might be a good song, but I'd probably shelve it away for the following year (at least it would still be on the shelves 
).
While writing this I was listening to Chet Baker & Art Pepper - The Route, it just happened to be on the radio at the time, followed by Hampton Hawes - Feelin' Fine and Art Farmer - Eclypso. They were nice.
It's not just jazz, I like listening to people play and sing playfully. They call it 'swing', apparently. I also like meditative music.
Thank you.
You are meeting prejudice with bigotry, emasculating those with whom you disagree.
Yeah, that's the main thing... it's really comfortable to hate people we disagree with.
I'm not a religious person myself, but whatever code a person follows, I suspect that they'll agree: having love only for those who are lovable is not what's truly noble.
It is not about disagreeing. I am mad at Henry Ford and his racism, not at Batgirl or any of ou guys.
People in positions of power cause great suffering to thousands, even millions, when you consider the repercussions of their racism.This, to me, is inhuman, this level of insensitivity.
If you guys choose to go after me for that, then so be it. Have fun passing judgement on me.
Wow BG...thanks for outing Henry. Late 1800's/early 1900's history is so very interesting on many levels. Blues, Klezmer both use tonal 1/2 pitches, bless their hearts