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Vance917

In no way do I condone what he did, and if it makes the world a safer place, then I am all for it. But even so, a man is dead, so I hope you will forgive me if I do not rejoice.  Now if we could bring back the victims, then that would be something to cheer about.  But this?

 

mountainsong

I see your point, but even so...I'm glad it's over.

Testje

Damn hippie

Vance917
mountainsong wrote:

I see your point, but even so...I'm glad it's over.


 Relieved, yes.  But gleeful?

mountainsong

No, just relieved.

brynja

Still doubt it is him they got

ivandh

It's "too little, too late" for me. Ten years ago our foreign policy was one of revenge and reputation- we weren't going to sit back when attacked. Today, we have much more complex issues at hand, and the death of an old man approaches trivial in comparison.

lealily

This happened before the elections in States... Good coincidence.

I've read in Russian news, that it is too soon say it was really he, there will be DNA test to be sure.

ivandh

Well, to be fair, in the States everything happens before one election or another.

It would be a little embarrassing to find out we got somebody else... but then again maybe the world could use the comic relief.

Vance917

I agree with both Ivan and Lealily, although what I meant to say does not relate to the veracity of the identification, nor to the strategic importance of the execution.  No doubt the crowds who were cheering did believe, rightly or wrongly, that it was OBL who had been executed, and that this was a good thing.  My question is whether this entitles them, morally (I am not discussing legal issues), to cheer as they did.

lealily
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Vance917

I would have been no more proud had I been there, and been part of the mission.  My issue is not with their membership, or stake, but rather with this whole notion of celebrating anybody's death.

lealily

Yes, yes, it is also complitely true...

ivandh

I have seen many people who think of the world as divided between good and evil, and they think that by killing evil (what they perceive as evil) the world will become good. In their zeal to destroy, they never think that it is possible to become evil themselves.

lealily

You know, i really cried one day, when saw in news how in Afghanistan were killed children and women by mistake, cause soldiers thought there were terrorists. Nobody showed how family cried cause of death, but now it was shown "cheerful", but there were also innocent people...

...When i travelled in UAE, talked with many people from Pakistan and Afghanistan, taxi drivers, sellers in markets - they all were so friendly and kindly with me, and tried to help with my wheelchair, when I as slim girl needed that... I was also amazed with knowledge of one Pakistan's young man, he spoke excellent English, and told me interesting things about history of my country also...

brynja

In order to answer your quistion here than NO I do not find it moral to celebrate anyones death or murder regardless of whom

jason17
ivandh wrote:

It's "too little, too late" for me. Ten years ago our foreign policy was one of revenge and reputation- we weren't going to sit back when attacked. Today, we have much more complex issues at hand, and the death of an old man approaches trivial in comparison.


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Vance917

 

A Face Book friend posted this as her status: "I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid ...of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

So apparently I am in good company, or brilliant minds think alike, or something to that effect.  Thank you everyone for weighing in, and if MLK is not enough, then what about Ozzy:  "Maybe it's not too late to learn how to love and forget how to hate".
Vance917

Right, in no way does this do anything to bring back those who are lost.

shequan

yous is all nuts.