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NobleElevator
llama47 wrote:

I just realized something funny about this.

what is it o.0

llama47

The funny thing is that... let's say you lose a few games to a cheater. Sure, that sucks, but you don't know they're cheating, and you keep playing games.

The way the rating system works is you'll gain your points back naturally... so why is it useful for chess.com to give you rating points? Because the overall effect of many cheaters being banned is they permanently remove rating points from the pool, which has the overall effect of decreasing everyone's rating.

By giving you points after losing to a cheater, your duty (so to speak) is to lose those extra points back to everyone else. Sort of like getting a shot at the hospital. Those extra points will help the whole body, you just happen to be the part of the arm chess.com is sticking the needle into haha tongue.png

llama47

To put it another way... let's say they had... I don't know... 1000 chess bots online at any given time, secretly playing as if they're humans.

Instead of refunding you, they could pump those points into the bots and the effect would be the same (you'd still get your rating back, just not in an obvious way).

Phantom_Beast23

I'm gonna pretend like i understood that

Phantom_Beast23

Oh wait i got that thats kinda big brane

llama47

I am leaving out a key piece of info (some people will know it, some wont). Which is when two players play, the amount of rating 1 player loses is always equal to the amount the other gains... this is a bit tricky in Gliko because of RD, but we can just assume the number of points RD creates is equal to the number is destroys tongue.png

This is why banning cheaters (after they've cheated) can harm the overall system of ratings, and why it's useful to injecting points into the system after banning them.

PositionalPawnSacs
llama47 wrote:

The funny thing is that... let's say you lose a few games to a cheater. Sure, that sucks, but you don't know they're cheating, and you keep playing games.

The way the rating system works is you'll gain your points back naturally... so why is it useful for chess.com to give you rating points? Because the overall effect of many cheaters being banned is they permanently remove rating points from the pool, which has the overall effect of decreasing everyone's rating.

By giving you points after losing to a cheater, your duty (so to speak) is to lose those extra points back to everyone else. Sort of like getting a shot at the hospital. Those extra points will help the whole body, you just happen to be the part of the arm chess.com is sticking the needle into haha

but i know whos cheating after 1 game tongue.png 

Phantom_Beast23

I don't even bother checking if my opponent had a high accuracy i just check if i had any brilliant moves and then i close the tab

Phantom_Beast23

I mean I do analyze once but you know

Darkness_Destroyer
Phantom_Beast23 wrote:

 

 

ye I love when that happens cause you forget losing that game but then when you get this message its like free rating points happy.png