The Science of Biological Evolution (no politics or religion)
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Ghostliner
May 5, 2016
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#1281
Why don't you start another God thread PK? You don't seem to able to cut it on the grown up ones ;)
May 5, 2016
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#1282
pawnkeeper wrote:
pawnkeeper wrote:
Elroch wrote:
pawnkeeper wrote:
paulgregoryIV wrote:
This pawn guy sure knows how to cut and paste.
Hey, I'm like you. I'm not an authority. So we need information from some one with authority. It is about science isn't it? Or do we only want your wrong opinion.
pawn, I have told you on multiple occasions in the past that copied and pasted arguments about the 2nd law of thermodynamics are simply wrong. You continue to cut and paste them. That is why your knowledge of the subject remains abysmal. That is funny, Science seems think it is still well founded. Besides it is still fact that every thing deteriorates, it does not become superior. Mountains erode, iron rusts, and we all die. That should be simple enough for you.
Yes, the 2nd law of thermodynamics is "well founded". But that doesn't mean it is correct to abuse it, any more than the existence of children makes child abuse valid.
Obviously, there were a few gaps in your education. Actually, I am wondering whether there was any education between the gaps, but let's not get distracted.
Firstly, the theory of evolution does not say that organisms like you and me don't die. (I presume some guy wearing a dress told you that: no scientist did). Indeed, in practice, dying is quite a large part of natural selection: while natural selection is entirely about replicating genes, not dying too quickly is a prerequisite for having a chance to replicate genes, so it is a major factor.
Also, evolution says nothing about what happens to mountains or iron. Maybe you mixed it up with some other word like erosion or oxidation. Easy mistakes to make (by someone like you).
Anyway, that's probably more than you can cope with in one go. Hope it helps.
The Earth is teeming with life, and apparently humans have only identified one-thousandth of 1 percent of the various species that call the planet home. A new study out of Indiana University, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, reveals that Earth could contain nearly 1 trillion species.
pawnkeeper wrote:
Raspberry_Yoghurt wrote:
wraithleader wrote:
if you want to have an eye opening discussion tell me something you thinks proves evolution and I will tell you how it disproves it.speaking purely scientifically
That bacteria has evolved resistance against antibiotics. That is not evolution. It is trying to stay alive.
I don't think you know yourself what you mean with that :)
Change in gene frequency in a population is evolution. And the frequency of bacteria having genes allowing them to survive antibiotics has increased.
pawnkeeper wrote:
evolution play
noun evo·lu·tion \ˌe-və-ˈlü-shən, ˌē-və-\
Popularity: Top 10% of words
Simple Definition of evolution
biology : a theory that the differences between modern plants and animals are because of changes that happened by a natural process over a very long time
: the process by which changes in plants and animals happen over time
: a process of slow change and development
Source: Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary
Basically it is saying we, humans, evolved from plants. But we still have plants, They should be gone because they evolved into something else. At least they say it is a theory. If we evolved a long time ago and I assume we are still evolving, why don't we have any evidence of us evolving now, something? That must of been a long time ago. seems like obvious questions to me.
Oh, one more thing. Our reproduction system only creates the the same thing. To change into something else don't we have to make something else? But we don't do that. According to the definition it takes a long time. It has been a long time for man according to science.
Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:
The Earth is teeming with life, and apparently humans have only identified one-thousandth of 1 percent of the various species that call the planet home. A new study out of Indiana University, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, reveals that Earth could contain nearly 1 trillion species
So, do you have a point? Each species is individual. Not evolving into something else.
alex-rodriguez wrote:
"Obviously, there were a few gaps in your education. Actually, I am wondering whether there was any education between the gaps, but let's not get distracted."
Well done sir.
Seems to me our education system is producing a lot of ignorant and very stubborn people who don't realize how ignorant they are.
This could become a problem :)
Here we have another child who likes to play with cartoons. It would be better for him to face the facts.
alex-rodriguez wrote:
pawnkeeper wrote:
alex-rodriguez wrote:
I noticed evolution deniers (biologists call them flat-earthers) know absolutely nothing about how evolution works. Perhaps one of their problems is they get all their information about science from dishonest brain-dead science deniers.
There is no hope for these people. Their brain damage is incurable. Oh, I see, you know every thing. We should all take your advice.
It's interesting you admit you're a science denier. You should be ashamed of your problem.
I have read 5 books about evolution. You have never read anything about the subject that was written by a real biologist and you never will try to educate yourself. You have a serious disease, sir, and there is no cure for it. We have another atheist claiming to know every thing about me and knows nothing. Well at least he can read, I guess.
The books I have read:
Your Inner Fish - A Journey Into The 3.5-Billion-Year History Of The Human Body by Neil Shubin
Why Evolution Is True by Jerry Coyne
The Making of the Fittest - DNA and the Ultimate Forensic Record of Evolution by Sean B. Carroll
The Greatest Show on Earth - The Evidence for Evolution by Richard Dawkins
Facts lol. You don't have the slightest clue what evolution theory is. Zero, none.
You think "plants" would disappear because "humans" evolved from plants. I am not sure that is true, but anyway - why on earth would plants disappear because humans evolved from plants?
Evolution happens if for instance a part of the population is isolated from the rest of is. For instance because a strat is formed and the organisms can't get over it. Then the isolated organisms can change into another direction and end up being a new species.
This doesn't mean that the population they came from magically disappear :)
pawnkeeper wrote:
alex-rodriguez wrote:
pawnkeeper wrote:
alex-rodriguez wrote:
I noticed evolution deniers (biologists call them flat-earthers) know absolutely nothing about how evolution works. Perhaps one of their problems is they get all their information about science from dishonest brain-dead science deniers.
There is no hope for these people. Their brain damage is incurable. Oh, I see, you know every thing. We should all take your advice.
It's interesting you admit you're a science denier. You should be ashamed of your problem.
I have read 5 books about evolution. You have never read anything about the subject that was written by a real biologist and you never will try to educate yourself. You have a serious disease, sir, and there is no cure for it. We have another atheist claiming to know every thing about me and knows nothing. Well at least he can read, I guess.
The books I have read:
Your Inner Fish - A Journey Into The 3.5-Billion-Year History Of The Human Body by Neil Shubin
Why Evolution Is True by Jerry Coyne
The Making of the Fittest - DNA and the Ultimate Forensic Record of Evolution by Sean B. Carroll
The Greatest Show on Earth - The Evidence for Evolution by Richard Dawkins
You haven't read anything, that's for sure :) You know that yourself.
alex-rodriguez wrote:
I noticed evolution deniers (biologists call them flat-earthers) know absolutely nothing about how evolution works. Perhaps one of their problems is they get all their information about science from dishonest brain-dead science deniers.
There is no hope for these people. Their brain damage is incurable. Evolutionists are the ones that believe a bunch of guys who give us unproven theories. Yeah I know this theory is close to this theory so it must be true. 
Flat-earthers, they can't prove we are wrong so start calling us names. That is what you are good at.
I have read enough to believe you are wrong. I also know that each species reproduces after its own kind. That alone kills evolution.
We evolved from "star-shite" -- after 13.7 billion years for the universe, including 4.1 billion years for our blue planet.
http://www.amazon.com/Anthropic-Cosmological-Principle-Oxford-Paperbacks/dp/0192821474
pawnkeeper wrote:
I have read enough to believe you are wrong. I also know that each species reproduces after its own kind. That alone kills evolution.
Have you read anything at all about evolution?? Natural selection?? Even the Catholic Church does not deny evolution any more (no religion, oops)
alex-rodriguez wrote:
"its own kind"
The word "kind". Science deniers love that word. Biologists never use it. Of course they don't it destroys evolution.
You don't know anything sir and that's obvious to every educated person here. Are you an educated snob who just likes to put people down who you disagree with? Sure seems like.
ab121705 wrote:
pawnkeeper wrote:
I have read enough to believe you are wrong. I also know that each species reproduces after its own kind. That alone kills evolution.
Have you read anything at all about evolution?? Natural selection?? Even the Catholic Church does not deny evolution any more (no religion, oops) Of course they would. They don't follow the Bible. (oops, no religion)
pawnkeeper wrote:
Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:
The Earth is teeming with life, and apparently humans have only identified one-thousandth of 1 percent of the various species that call the planet home. A new study out of Indiana University, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, reveals that Earth could contain nearly 1 trillion species
So, do you have a point? Each species is individual. Not evolving into something else.
All from one ancestor. Evolution is awesome.
In the study of early life on Earth, one name towers above the rest: LUCA. LUCA is not the name of a famous scientist in the field; it is shorthand for Last UniversalCommon Ancestor, a single cell that lived perhaps 3 or 4 billion years ago, and from which all life has since evolved. Amazingly, every living thing we see around us (and many more that we can only see with the aid of a microscope) is related. As far as we can tell, life on Earth arose only once.
