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jas0501

As stated in the Beta forum see https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/lobbying-for-score-graph-presentation-change)  I would much prefer the Score graph continue to contain the move classification icons  just above and below the axis based on color:

 

flashlight002

@jas0501 100% with you that it should be as you propose. Thank you for showing the various renditions it went through. I agree that the icons should lie along the base line. It looks neat and clear that way. I also, as I have told @erik that I don't believe move quality colours should form part of the Best Move Diff Graph. Studies have shown that people remember icons far easier than just colours when linked to a concept. In addition the icons with the universally understood symbols for move quality (the ? or ?? etc) further help beginners and intermediate players remember what the icon and colour means. Further it makes WAY MORE SENSE to have the move quality icons on the score graph as it is the score one achieved by making that move that determined the move quality (relative to the last score). I can see a groundswell here of agreement. PLEASE ALL WHO AGREE THAT THE ICONS COME BACK TO BEING SHOWN DIRECTLY ON THE SCORE GRAPH POST YOUR AGREEMENT HERE. 

jas0501
erik wrote:

I made a ticket to return the colors to the Best Move Diff graph. Not sure why that went away. 

As pointed out, if there is a 0.00 value there is no bar to color, thus no indication as to the move quality. The Score Graph with enlarged icons above and below the x axis, White's above, Black's below is the way to go.

Toire
flashlight002 wrote: I can see a groundswell here of agreement. PLEASE ALL WHO AGREE THAT THE ICONS COME BACK TO BEING SHOWN DIRECTLY ON THE SCORE GRAPH POST YOUR AGREEMENT HERE. 

Are those that disagree allowed to post their disagreement here?

flashlight002

@Toire if you want to. But naturally please back up with supporting logical reasons your viewpoint, and which graph should get the coloured bars or icons. Bear in mind that we have already pointed out that @erik's idea to colour code the "Best Move Diff" graph has a flaw in it as a 0.00 move will get no bar and hence there is no ability to show the move quality for that move. Please also consider your proposal to suit players of all different strengths and that it should aid in decoding and understanding the game foremost and be easy to understand. 

One thing we also have not visited is the idea that one could show the icons on the score graph, but there could be a toggle switch to turn them on or off, for those who don't want them to show. Then EVERYONE is happy.

flashlight002

Is there the ability to create a poll on a forum post?

flashlight002
dallin wrote:

This is a bug introduced with some board optimizations we are working on. We will get it fixed shortly, @flashlight002.

Hi @dallin the bug I highlighted with the board size in post #358 and #359 is still in effect. Any idea on time frame till when it will be fixed?

erik
flashlight002 wrote:
dallin wrote:

This is a bug introduced with some board optimizations we are working on. We will get it fixed shortly, @flashlight002.

Hi @dallin the bug I highlighted with the board size in post #358 and #359 is still in effect. Any idea on time frame till when it will be fixed?

Should be next week. We tend to not push code on Fridays... bad things happen.

flashlight002

@erik thanks for the update happy.png. Much appreciated! Yeah that makes perfect sense! 

flashlight002

@erik funny you should bring up the fact that chess.com don't like pushing out code on a Friday. Well someone on your team did just that. They changed the look of the daily games board page today so that the time left per player is more visible now (displaying top right and bottom right of the board now). However this change resulted in me losing a valuable functionality in the self analysis section. Before this new change, I could long press a self analysis move and a great pop up list of functions appeared allowing me to do great things like annotations, deleting or promoting variations, etc etc. I have been using this feature for about a year now. Now since the new board was introduced this morning I can no longer access this popup list, completely curtailing my ability to edit anything in my self analysis section. I am using Chrome for Android. The amazing Amanda from member support has the matter in hand, plus I let @dallin know. I created a forum post here of the issue, showing screenshots and explaining it in more detail: https://bit.ly/2StesBx

FiddlerCrabSeason

A couple new twists:

1)  Why does the "Save" button now say "Share"?

2a)  I've had several instances where the analysis board is cutting off the last couple +/- moves from the completed game.  In the case of the following (https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/daily/232294462), the game continued 15. Rhe1 Qb4+..., THEN white resigned.

2b) It's also the case that much of the pgn header data is excluded when downloading these games.  All fields from "ECOUrl" through "Link" are missing compared to the games where all moves/data are included. (bug report submitted this morning).

2c) possibly related, possibly not...  on my game archive page, some of these games are listed with "Analyze" in the Accuracy column, i) even when I've already run them through the analysis page, and ii) I can run them through the analysis page multiple times, refreshing the games archive page each time, and they're still displayed the same way.

- M

flashlight002
erik wrote:
flashlight002 wrote:
dallin wrote:

This is a bug introduced with some board optimizations we are working on. We will get it fixed shortly, @flashlight002.

Hi @dallin the bug I highlighted with the board size in post #358 and #359 is still in effect. Any idea on time frame till when it will be fixed?

Should be next week. We tend to not push code on Fridays... bad things happen.

Hi @erik and @dallin . When will this bug be fixed? 

flashlight002

@mgt3 I went and opened an analysed game now of mine and went to the "analysis" tab and you are quite right!! The "Save" button at the end of the analysed game list now reads "Share" suddenly. This is a CLEAR fault. Someone working in the cms of the website changed the button text by mistake clearly. Below is a screenshot. @erik @dallin can someone please fix this back to "Save". It certainly isn't a share button.

FiddlerCrabSeason
flashlight002 wrote:

...This is a CLEAR fault...

 

You do not know that this is a fault and/or done by mistake.  It could be that it was a) intentional, and b) changed for a reason that we are not yet aware of.  All I was asking was "why?"

- M

flashlight002

@PawnstormPossie @mgt3 I just tested it. It is a SAVE function. When you add or change your analyzed game list by adding a new variation, adding an annotation etc etc you need to SAVE it so that it is permanently in the analysis tab database. That is a SAVE button pure and simple. I just tested it. If it was a share button it would have invoked a share dialogue box to access the APIs for social media sites etc etc. The share function is already there right at the bottom of the screen. This is an error. Someone has incorrectly rewritten SHARE over the word SAVE in the content management console of the website which allows one to change the text on buttons in an instant. 

flashlight002

@erik @dallin can someone in dev please relabel the save button to "Save" in the analysis tab. See above posts. Thanks. Someone on your team has, by mistake, overwritten the correct word "Save" on the Save button with the word "Share".

flashlight002

I have informed member support to open a ticket to fix the button name. It actually is the simplest thing to do. On a modern cms one can even change headings, buttons, page headings, menu names, links, articles, banners...you name it....even from one's cell phone. I used to do it all the time. Systems like Wordpress or Joomla etc are used to run tbe front end cms system to allow this content management flexibility. Depending on user privileges it is thus very easy to, by mistake, change the name of a button if one is busy on that page in the cms. The button function does not change at all because that is html coding, but you could essentially name that button anything you wanted to.

jas0501

Earlier I create a forum topic under beta regarding Share vs. Save. See

Question: Analysis Report - Share vs. Save - policy change?

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There is a [Share] button file I created in comment #3 that will clarify current accessibility of an annotated analysis. Someone please try and access it to see if you can see the annotation.

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/master/290740

FiddlerCrabSeason
jas0501 wrote:

Earlier I create a forum topic under beta regarding Share vs. Save. See

Question: Analysis Report - Share vs. Save - policy change?

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There is a [Share] button file I created in comment #3 that will clarify current accessibility of an annotated analysis. Someone please try and access it to see if you can see the annotation.

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/master/290740

 

Great idea.  I don't see any of your annotations when I click on the link you provided.

- M

flashlight002

@jas0501 I can't see any of your annotations...as it should be. Each player has their own analysis database so that their own saved annotations, self analyses etc is preserved. I tested the "Share" button that used to be called "Save". It just functions the same as it always has...like a save button. No difference. That's why I concluded it's just a mistake in naming someone in dev made in the cms. If it was some kind of share interface it would need to ask you what to share and with whome and using what type of protocols and privacy settings. (Like the share functionality for a game in place right now).

On a hypothetical note what I save I would generally like to keep as my own. 

Right now if you go and share your analysis pgn it will share your annotations and all your self analyses moves and variations and comments to whoever you send the pgn file to.