All The Reasons We Hate V3!

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Connor_Macleod1518

Great!!!

I'm looking forward to your study solsky.

Pls publish it in open forum. Thnx.

Robert_New_Alekhine

V3 is the worst thing that ever happened to chess.com.

Robert_New_Alekhine
DrSpudnik wrote:

On the upside, V3 will probably make me waste less time on the site.

Oh, most definitely. I can't see myself logging on for more than 15 minutes a day after V3. Maybe I will just quit chess.com. 

solskytz

Yes - I will post my detailed viewpoint publicly - including in this thread.

CaptainPike

Thanks, solskytz.

Martin_Stahl

For some perspective on the redesign in 2012, here are a couple of topics:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/help-support/bring-back-the-old-look

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/cant-find-something-in-the-new-design-ask-here

 

People had problems with it then and things worked out well. The world didn't end happy.png

solskytz

So - a first interim report:

V2 vs. v3

  1. First thing I see on logging on – is that the ‘icon’ menus are now supplemented with text – one or two descriptive words – like in v2. This makes navigation easier and more intuitive.
  2. It’s nice to see an overview of articles as you log on – each with its heading and photo.
  3. As I log on to HOME it’s nice to immediately see my ongoing games. Also “news” are easily accessible through that digit on the left – which is similar to Facebook – you go there and scroll, you see pretty much all that’s happened.

My stats are still on the right side of “home” – as before – and now I also get to see a graph.

So far – so good.

  1. Another advantage is that the “report” button is so easily accessible from home.
  2. I like it that I can select “play three minutes” right from my home with one click on v3. On v2 I had to open the “live chess” page, then from it, open the actual live chess area, then select three minutes (where this was not the default). Easier and faster indeed.
  3. Now the game itself. It feels like it flows better. The board, pieces and time are bigger and clearer. It’s easier to chat with an opponent, the resignation (abort) and draw button have never been clearer. The game experience is easier and more fun. The indicators of connection quality have more in-between levels… it feels more professional overall.
  4. Still in the playing zone – I like it that when my friends appear, I also see their icon. More graphic and cheerful overall!!
  5. It’s nice that we now have these “chess variants”. Now they are also easy to find. I will explore them at some point.
  6. It’s now also simple and easy to set parameters for challenges on live – very quick and intuitive.

 

First judgment: I like it.

I will explore it further, as regards tactic trainer, chess mentor, online chess, stats, articles and anything else that comes to mind.

For now I will switch to v3, with an optimistic view.

 

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LAST MINUTE: trying the forums

10. The presentation of various types of forums is simple and easy to navigate. They work better and more smoothly and look more professional. 

11. I like it that I can change the size of the window I'm writing in!

12. More types of smileys!! The "writing" palette seems to be more varied than it was on v2. Need to explore further. 

 

What are y'all waiting for? Jump into the water!! V3 is worth trying - it's much better than it was last time I tried it (I think still in 2015). 

Pulpofeira

In one hour. I told you, this is your man.

solskytz

Lol !

When I promised to check things out I wasn't even home yet...

batgirl

Thanks Martin, That reminds me of the quote one sees about Socrates complaining about the kids nowadays.

I was told that v3 wasn't just a design change, though that is certainly a big part of it, but a necessary change that would enable the developers, programmers and site maintenance staff to be able to do their jobs efficiently and effectively.  I can't even begin to appreciate how much goes into operating a site like this, and judging from the size of the staff, it must be mind-boggling.  As it has grown, and hopefully will continue to grow, streamlining must be a high priority. So, v3 is not so much a question of polling people to see what they like, but a course of action based on pragmatism and reasons most of us don't even realize exist.

v3 isn't a threat or a promise. It's a reality and one needs to accept reality and the reality certainly isn't dire, but it is a mixed bag.  However, that probaby doesn't mean everything is completely set in stone. Once the project rolls out and there are more resources and time available, it may be that certain things can be added, altered or reconsidered, but the look and feel -something one must certainly get used to - is going to stay. There are many very good things about v3 (eg, spell-check actually works) but, like peace, you have to give it a chance.

Angevine

@solskytz ,

Will you test the case of the deferred games? ... Why (In all configurations) the very slow pace of change pages in the V3 ? ... The V2 version is much faster ... Regards.

solskytz

What are deferred games? And what are change pages? 

I'm not familiar with the concepts...

Toire

I'm posting this from V3 using the Edge browser; Firefox won't work properly on V3, in particular there are no icons at the bottom of the left hand bar for Menu at Top, old Chess.com etc...

To report a Bug, it seems you have to take a screenshot, which is no use as the problem is in a different browser.

What a bag.

solskytz

I suggest that anybody who posts about not being pleased with v3, also post when was the last time he tried it. 

I say this because v3 works a lot better today than it did in December 2015. 

batgirl
Trevor-D wrote:

I'm posting this from V3 using the Edge browser; Firefox won't work properly on V3, in particular there are no icons at the bottom of the left hand bar for Menu at Top, old Chess.com etc...

I'm posting this from Firefox, using Vista.  I don't seem to have that issue:

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ReddyJ
CaptainPike wrote:

Because, I'm an admin and V2 is not communicating with V3 well; so many alerts of what I do in V2 is not being related to V3 users.

 

Also, V2 is going by the wayside; so in time, V2 won't even be an option.

 

Oh. And another thing about V3:

I can't "size" pictures in forum entries; I can only "stretch"!

your the admin of the website u hate... lol

Rsava
ReddyJ wrote:
CaptainPike wrote:

Because, I'm an admin and V2 is not communicating with V3 well; so many alerts of what I do in V2 is not being related to V3 users.

 

Also, V2 is going by the wayside; so in time, V2 won't even be an option.

 

Oh. And another thing about V3:

I can't "size" pictures in forum entries; I can only "stretch"!

your the admin of the website u hate... lol

He means a group admin.

Toire
batgirl wrote:
Trevor-D wrote:

I'm posting this from V3 using the Edge browser; Firefox won't work properly on V3, in particular there are no icons at the bottom of the left hand bar for Menu at Top, old Chess.com etc...

I'm posting this from Firefox, using Vista.  I don't seem to have that issue:

 

Those icons are not there for me, Firefox on Windows 10.phpHfDCke.png

Toire

And no report a bug feature for me on Firefox, so can't send a screenshot. Cry

SmyslovFan

For me, V3 is a vast improvement over V2 in terms of game play. V2 is easier for me to use for social activities, but I know I can get used to V3's social function eventually.

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