Auto play only legal move

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goodSirN

In online chess, I would like an option to allow "auto play only legal move". This would be similar to conditional move, but more general. If I have only one single legal move, I would like that move to be executed without having to do te move myself. This would probably speed up some end games.

notmtwain
goodSirN wrote:

In online chess, I would like an option to allow "auto play only legal move". This would be similar to conditional move, but more general. If I have only one single legal move, I would like that move to be executed without having to do te move myself. This would probably speed up some end games.

Show us two games where this would have helped.

AIM-AceMove

In Fide Online Arena server there is such option "smart move" where if you touch with mouse a piece that can be moved to only 1 legal square it could be done automatically for bullet games. But the thing you porposed might be considered "cheating"

nkondeti

and playlers need to think for themselves

Casual_Joe

If your opponent has offered a draw, and you auto-play a move, you'd be auto-declining the draw.  I for one wouldn't want that.

Zigwurst

Please tell me how it would be cheating if there's only one legal move...

AIM-AceMove

Becouse you could not see that there is only one legal move. In OTB if you play illigal move you lose the game.

Casual_Joe
AIM-AceMove wrote:

Becouse you could not see that there is only one legal move. In OTB if you play illigal move you lose the game.

Not true -- you don't lose if you make an illegal move.

Zigwurst

It's impossible to make illegal moves online, so why not?

chesster3145

Casual_Joe wrote:

AIM-AceMove wrote:

Becouse you could not see that there is only one legal move. In OTB if you play illigal move you lose the game.

Not true -- you don't lose if you make an illegal move.

The new FIDE rules state that in classical chess, each player is allowed one illegal move without penalty. The second illegal move loses.

PossibleOatmeal
Zigwurst wrote:

It's impossible to make illegal moves online, so why not?

Because it may take you time to find the only legal move.  Time is an important part of the game and having the computer find a move for you quickly is simply computer assisted play.  Some servers specifically disallow this, but most probably don't have a specific rule about it.  I think it is pretty clear it should be against the rules.

Zigwurst

So is playing any "only-move" considered cheating since it is the computer's top choice?

PossibleOatmeal

No, because you found it yourself.  Playing the computer's top choice is not illegal as long as you find and select the move yourself.  Having the computer tell you it's the top choice is what is illegal.

Zigwurst

In correspondence there is no difference if you take 3 seconds on a move or 20 days, so why not there?

PossibleOatmeal

You could certainly make an argument for it in correspondence, sure.

goodSirN

Maybe I was a bit unclear when I said "online chess" in the original post. I ment online chess in the context of chess.com, i.e. online correspondence chess as opposed to "live chess". Of course, in live chess (OTB or online) you have to find the move yourself; letting the computer do that for you would be cheating.

@notmtwain: In this game I believe my 68th, 71st, 72nd, 74th, 75th and 76th moves are the only legal move. I have another example, too, but I can't find it right now.

PossibleOatmeal

I'm shocked that chess.com's horrible naming scheme has led to more confusion.

goodSirN

@notmtwain: Here is a second example of a game where this would be useful. This time my opponent's moves 50 to 55 are the only legal. My own moves 50-55 were played using Conditional moves.

omnipaul

Up above (post #5), Casual_Joe pointed out one good reason not to have this. 

Another is the option to resign: I would not like my option to resign at a time of my choosing to be taken away by something like this. 

Yet a third is that there may be some situation where a draw can be claimed via the 50-move rule, but the only legal move would nullify such a claim (that is, if a capture or pawn move is the only legal move available).  Note that there should not be a threefold repetition version of this, because the same moves and options should be available every time for a threefold repetition to count, and so the position after the "only legal move" would also be a threefold repetition.  In analogous terms, if x+1=a, y+1=b, z+1=c, and x=y=z, then a=b=c.

All that said, if it were an optional feature (and one that is off, by default), then I don't see a problem with it.

goodSirN

@Casual_Joe @omnipaul

Yes, those are good reasons to not "auto play only legal move"

My suggestion was to add this as an option in correspondence chess only. An option that of course would be off by default.