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TonightOnly

Okay, so I was told that this deserves its own thread, so here it is. Composed by K Fabel White to play and mate in three.

benws

as i said before, this was posted by someone else in February. but still, it's pretty nice. i won't post the solution and give it away. Cool

shuttlechess92

very nice and what a confusing arrange of pieces!

rush40

o_O

NotKasparov

I take it you would mind if I post the solution?

TonightOnly

NotKasparov wrote:

I take it you would mind if I post the solution?


I wouldn't, but others might. Is there some reason to?

NotKasparov

TonightOnly wrote:

NotKasparov wrote:

I take it you would mind if I post the solution?

 


I wouldn't, but others might. Is there some reason to?


Well, others may want to know (I usually fall into "alright, I can't find it, just tell me what it is!" category), and it may be interesting to look for holes in my solution.

But, admittedly, there is some virtue in not posting the solution.  I'm in the "just tell me" category, but that's not necessarily a good thing.

TonightOnly

Well, it doesn't much matter anymore. Benws pointed out that this puzzle has already been discussed in another thread.

ajedresdetorre

If they can solve the puzzle, they have every right to post their answer. However, if by means of some software, they are NOT welcome.

I think that this should be the policy, posting the answer after a week or so, after an exhaustive discussion and reasoning.

It will be a very interesting forum, I might say!

West-End-Girl

based on the other link posted above (post #8, last check) - dumb q cos i'm a big time novice over here - i thought that if a pawn got to the other side, it became a queen - how come they got another knight?

JG27Pyth

I solved this WITH SOFTWARE and can barely understand the answer after looking at it!!! This is a HARD PUZZLE!

Redferox
West-End-Girl wrote:

based on the other link posted above (post #8, last check) - dumb q cos i'm a big time novice over here - i thought that if a pawn got to the other side, it became a queen - how come they got another knight?


 You can promote a pawn to any higher piece except king of course :)

West-End-Girl
Redferox wrote:
West-End-Girl wrote:

based on the other link posted above (post #8, last check) - dumb q cos i'm a big time novice over here - i thought that if a pawn got to the other side, it became a queen - how come they got another knight?


You can promote a pawn to any higher piece except king of course :)


oh i see - so - assuming that *one* fine day, I get my pawn to the other side, lol - will it give me an option to choose which piece to promote the lucky pawn to?

david4real

I do know d lines for white would be bx=Bc8 followed by Bxd7#.. but then it's up to black to counter such moves.

david4real

or simply bx=Nc8 followed by Nf8#

TonightOnly

Hmmm, yes okay, but black can counter these moves. So, these are not mate in three.

Tiger-13

why isn't it a problem board, and just a fen board? btw, what are the solutions?

TonightOnly
Tiger-13 wrote:

why isn't it a problem board, and just a fen board?


What is the difference?

(Besides getting to see the solution before putting in the work)

TonightOnly
Tiger-13 wrote:

btw, what are the solutions?


Why don't you try to figure it out? It really isn't that hard.

 

There aren't a great number of award-winning chess problems out there. I relish the chance to figure out these really clever ones. It may take a good deal of time, though.

 

Edit: I posted a hint on the next page.

TonightOnly

Hint:

 

The black King is obviously in a pretty tenuous position. If you have spent some time on this puzzle already, then you have probably found a couple ways in which white almost mates the King. So, if you have found a way in which white would have a forced mate except for one escape square, then why not find a way to cover that square and see if black has a way out?

 

That should pretty much give it to anyone that hasn't solved it yet. If you still really have hit the wall with this one, just message me, and I will send you the solution.

 

There is also the link that I provided previously. Although, I'm not sure if they ever got it right...