A Bust to the Sicilian Defense

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Here is another example of how stoppable the Alapin is.

staples13 pls show how white is winning in the position. Also look at Master Games. What is the win rate for white? 33%. If your so good then beat Carlsen, which in your words is trash, with the Alapin. Oh yeah and no draws allowed because you say its a disgrace. 

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"... 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d6 ... Here is another example of how unstoppable the Alapin is. ..." - staples13 (~9 hours ago)
staples13 wrote (~38 minutes ago):
HolographWars wrote:

It's true that black's Nxh5 was a bad move, however, White's attack would still be overwhelming in any case.

Great post. Black can always play differently. In which case he merely loses differently 

"... d5 and nf6 do provide much stiffer resistance than any of black's other responses. I, however, believe black is still lost even after these moves. I will post an analysis shortly." - staples13 (August 27, 2018)

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=2

"staples13 ... U showed your own analysis, with some nonsense and bad moves from black which don't prove anything. U just proved u lack some objectivity and skill to assess moves/positions." - IM pouncin (September 26, 2018)

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=12

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staples13 wrote:
HolographWars wrote:

It's true that black's Nxh5 was a bad move, however, White's attack would still be overwhelming in any case.

Great post. Black can always play differently. In which case he merely loses differently 

Nice Fisher quote there

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fried_liver-attack  wrote:

… Nice Fisher quote there

About the King's Gambit?

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kindaspongey wrote:
fried_liver-attack  wrote:

… Nice Fisher quote there

About the King's Gambit?

Yeah, about how the knight's variation

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I'm playing Staples13 right now. As black. I haven't lost yet

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This is my most recent 1 minute bullet game. Black resigned after just 9 moves after getti into a hopeless position with his Sicilian 

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staples13 wrote:

This is my most recent 1 minute bullet game. Black resigned after just 9 moves after getti into a hopeless position with his Sicilian 

Ur in a hopeless position in this argument.

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Seriously people it’s not that hard to just stop playing the Sicilian. 

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staples13 wrote:

... 1 e4 c5 2 c3 Nc6 ... This is my most recent 1 minute bullet game. Black resigned after just 9 moves after getti into a hopeless position with his Sicilian 

"... d5 and nf6 do provide much stiffer resistance than any of black's other responses. I, however, believe black is still lost even after these moves. I will post an analysis shortly." - staples13 (August 27, 2018)

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=2

"staples13 ... U showed your own analysis, with some nonsense and bad moves from black which don't prove anything. U just proved u lack some objectivity and skill to assess moves/positions." - IM pouncin (September 26, 2018)
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/a-bust-to-the-sicilian-defense?page=12

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staples13 wrote:

Black resigned after just 9 moves after getting into a hopeless position with his Sicilian. Hopeless you say? Does a Stockfish evaluation of 0.00 (depth=43) constitute as "hopeless" for black?

 

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GMRVSYash wrote:
staples13 wrote:

Black resigned after just 9 moves after getting into a hopeless position with his Sicilian. Hopeless you say? Does a Stockfish evaluation of 0.00 (depth=43) constitute as "hopeless" for black?

 

As for me, I am not arguing that the Alapin gives black a hopeless game, but I do claim that it is an extremely powerful weapon for human v. human. Staples13 has a high win rate when he plays against another human.

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HolographWars wrote:
GMRVSYash wrote:
staples13 wrote:

Black resigned after just 9 moves after getting into a hopeless position with his Sicilian. Hopeless you say? Does a Stockfish evaluation of 0.00 (depth=43) constitute as "hopeless" for black?

 

As for me, I am not arguing that the Alapin gives black a hopeless game, but I do claim that it is an extremely powerful weapon for human v. human. Staples13 has a high win rate when he plays against another human.

... He also has an extremely high win rate with the sicilian. 

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@Mrmerbs57 say that to Howell, Tiviakov, Sveshnikov, Adams, Rozentalis, Vajda, Pavasovic, Sermek, Stevic and dozens of other strong grandmasters who have played it with greats results, even against the strongest GMs.

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Wait hold on...

There are 3 types of lies. 

Lies,

Damned Lies, and

Statistics.

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HolographWars wrote (~18 days ago):

... 74% ...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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staples13 wrote:

In my opinion the Sicilian Defense is busted. It loses by force.

I have played 581  games here on chess.com using the Alapin. I have won 68% lost 26% and drawn the other 6%. That is a score of 71%. No other opening is capable of scoring 71%.

 

Well, personally, I started playing 2 Be2 against the Sicilian a few months back. So far my score in serious games (both OTB and online) against good opposition is P12 W9 D3 L0 for a score of 87.5%. I must therefore conclude that 2 Be2 is stronger than 2 c3 and, moreover, that it wins even more by force. Or not as the case may be wink.png

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Magnus Carlsen became a grandmaster in 2004. Since then, according to chessgames.com, he won one, lost two, and drew five games playing as black against Alapin.

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jatait47 wrote:
staples13 wrote:

In my opinion the Sicilian Defense is busted. It loses by force.

I have played 581  games here on chess.com using the Alapin. I have won 68% lost 26% and drawn the other 6%. That is a score of 71%. No other opening is capable of scoring 71%.

 

Well, personally, I started playing 2 Be2 against the Sicilian a few months back. So far my score in serious games (both OTB and online) against good opposition is P12 W9 D3 L0 for a score of 87.5%. I must therefore conclude that 2 Be2 is stronger than 2 c3 and, moreover, that it wins even more by force. Or not as the case may be

Unfortunately your sample size of 21 is not large enough

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kindaspongey wrote (~18 days ago):

... TremaniSunChild (~1 hour ago): "Against what kind of opposition? What strength? What time control? If I played a thousand 1300 to 1500s in regular blitz (Game/5) , I could play the Anderssen or The Vienna or the King's Gambit, and likely score at least 80%!"

uri65 (August 27, 2018): "I am glad you have your personal success with Alapin but statistics of some 1600 player is meaningless for claims you make in first line of your post #1."

June 13, 2019:

https://www.chess.com/blog/JapaneseTutor/the-refutation-to-the-c3-sicilian-smith-morra