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Nimzowitsch defence, 1.e4 Nc6 is not refuted. But it is not played very often. The main idea of Nimzowitsch and hypermodern school is to allow white to occupy center with pawns and than to attack it with pieces. I've tried that but it is not very easy to play it in the way Aaron imagined it.

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Is my ideea of play the 1.Nf3...2.Nc3 with white,1....Nf6 2....Nc6 with black against anything but 1.e4,and against 1.e4 Nc6
strateg I would like to point out that 1 e4 Nf6 is a good opening. Why not play it? Your intention of systematically playing 1...Nf6 is a good idea. I also like your idea of systematically following up with 2...Nc6 in cases other than 1 e4 Nf6. I think the moves will work with white also. Let me know how your system works for you.

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1...c6 is the move an refuted means proven wrong, or rubbish

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1...c6 is the move an refuted means proven wrong, or rubbish
The only universal move I knnow is 1...d5. You can play it against everything.
Refuted does not mean rubbish. It means that there is a line that will give one side advantage even with perfect play. But don't pay to much attention to all those "refuted" comments. When I play white my QGD is refuted every single time. But that does not mean QGD is bad opening, it means I am bad player. Capa use to beat people giving them queen for free. And there is not such an opening where you start without your queen. So, everything is in you. If you feel good in certain positions and like to play them, chose your openings so you would lead game in those kind of positions.

The only universal move I knnow is 1...d5. You can play it against everything.
Refuted does not mean rubbish. It means that there is a line that will give one side advantage even with perfect play. But don't pay to much attention to all those "refuted" comments. When I play white my QGD is refuted every single time. But that does not mean QGD is bad opening, it means I am bad player. Capa use to beat people giving them queen for free. And there is not such an opening where you start without your queen. So, everything is in you. If you feel good in certain positions and like to play them, chose your openings so you would lead game in those kind of positions.
Streptomicin, 1...d5 is not good against 1 c4. The universal moves I know are 1...Nf6 1...d6 and 1...c6.

I think your idea is worth attention because moves you are proposing are natural ones. At first, it can be good if you adopt a good central pawn chain (e6 and d5 or d6 and e5???) but that close the c file and the f file. Against e4, there is an interesting alternative with Nf6; Alek's defense surprises average players and masters in rapid. Another one said you better choose your opening, the one you feel comfortable and aknowledged.
Is my ideea of play the 1.Nf3...2.Nc3 with white,1....Nf6 2....Nc6 with black against anything but 1.e4,and against 1.e4 Nc6
There is an overriding principle in chess. The main reason that this principle is borne out in practical play is because pawns can only move forward. Unlike the pieces they can never go backwards.
Your ideas about the Knight moves in the opening fit into this principle.
The principle is stated as follows:
Winning chess is the strategically and tactically correct advance of the pawn mass.
The Knight moves you propose are designed to provoke strategically and tactically incorrect advances of the pawn mass. Any player familiar with the above principle (by that I mean he knows his openings) will not be confused by your Knight moves.
Your healthy curiosity will help in trying to understand chess. I have been playing this game for 15 years. I still don't understand it all.

the Black Knights Tango may be relevant to this post
http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_opng_shrtcts/01_black_knights_tango.html
http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_opng_shrtcts/040424_black_knights_tango.html
