Beating Stockfish and other top programs

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Aiban11

I am a a 1600 rated player, I am thinking to beat the worlds strongest chess programs like stockfish komodo and houdini. I am working hard to achieve this. What if I manage to beat them in the next two years or so, will I be able to beat human grandmasters that time. Or Will my playing strength be still at a club player level(vs humans). Does beating chess programs enhances our playing strenght to beat humans or does the strength remains the same. Thank you

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I am a a 1600 rated player, I am thinking to beat the worlds strongest chess programs like stockfish komodo and houdini. I am working hard to achieve this. What if I manage to beat them in the next two years or so, will I be able to beat human grandmasters that time. Or Will my playing strength be still at a club player level(vs humans). Does beating chess programs enhances our playing strenght to beat humans or does the strength remains the same. Thank you

That's a silly goal. Even Magnus has no such goal.

Just try to improve 100 points.

Aiban11

yeah you're right

Pashak1989

I don't know if you are trolling or just delusional to an alarming point. 

MayCaesar

Beat Chessmaster 5000, at least, before looking at the real fishies. wink.png

pluha_miha

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PatrickSwayC

Its easy to beat stockfish. Just play it on a 5MHz computer. And even if you're losing, you can make it resign (sort of) by pulling out the plug.

 

I beat many chess programs that way, and of course, boast about it in my personal life.

Path2GrandMaster

With respect to all, would you humbly hear what I have to say?

 

To answer the original question:

if you could beat the best engines on earth, then yes you could beat all human players.  Styles don't have to be considered because engines like Stockfish8 (3390) are 500+ ELO above the world champions(~2900).

 

So then, the real difficulty is beating the current technology (still advancing) + man's understanding (still advancing).  Remember, the computers vision (move horizon) is usually much less than thirty 30 ply.  Man has adjusted his understanding accordingly as computers seem reveal more solid variations which support certain understanding.  Yet there is much more than meets the eye, if only we would look past beyond that ply!  

 

This year I began personally testing different priorities of chess various fundamental chess principles against ply depth of 40 or more.  What was revealed was startling.  Could everything so complex really be so amazingly simple? Surely not! Using a simple idea I defeated chess.com's #21 global ranked leikepeike, and a number of other 2000+ players, (all that i could find), as well as consecutively beating the Fischer engine (2700), Kasparov Engine(2700), Anand Engine(2700), Chessmaster Engine(~3000), Various android apps on the hardest modes and Chess.com level 10(2700+).  Even stranger to your ears, these were easy wins as i remember one win verse chess.com level 10, composed of focused creative reactions after just waking up.  I played white and black against myself using this ideas for both sides.  In my tests against myself it was clear that there was no stopping white. As white I felt I won on move one.  But when I played with black versus others than myself I was also be unstoppable.  

 

The key to winning is found in the power of understanding the simple underlying fundamental. With this knowledge I could beat any opponent as it was clear no one played using these ideas which surpassed current accepted human knowledge + current technology. 

 

In honesty, I make totally stupid blunders and i'm rusty in tactics and not as sharp as I once was, but my understanding simplifies the complexities and confusion and I do have the tools at my disposal to beat any player on earth, or any computer. 

 

I have a ton more to share to the world of chess, so i decided to write a book which will be featured on kickstarter this fall.  I believe that the majority of 1400 players equipped with the knowledge I have will find themselves almost immediately playing at 2000+ ELO levels with a tapering zone around 2500-3500 ELO.  Yes I believe all chess books will be left in the dust as artifacts of an inferior age of chess understanding.  Get ready and drop me a line of encouragement as publishing this book in the midst of the storms of "life" isn't so easy....

 

P.S- I know i appear as a troll, but please consider what i am saying...Time will reveal all things.  Read my profile and what else I have wrote and please realize my stats are results of testing various methods of thought. 

 

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