Hi, I recently played a game as black.
There were couple of blunders but i believe at my level, it had lot of subtle moves! Do have a look. I have marked my annotations.
https://www.chess.com/a/noc1EdJ6zPAW
Please help me with the explanation of the following moves
White:
Move 17 and 22
Black:
Move 23, Qc2 is bad because Rg6 is a much stronger move?
Move 17, Qc2 is better because it will launch an attack on king?
Thanks
Bharat
Hi, I recently played a game as black.
There were couple of blunders but i believe at my level, it had lot of subtle moves! Do have a look. I have marked my annotations.
https://www.chess.com/a/noc1EdJ6zPAW
Please help me with the explanation of the following moves
White:
Move 17 I wouldn't worry too much about this one. White saving their hanging Queen is obvious, but ...Qf5 was the best retreat square when the game is roughly equal due to counterplay for the material. ...Qg3?? is given as a blunder because ...Qf5 was much better; that is it; computers can't think the way humans do. 17...Qc2! was the best way to keep the attack as Black can meet 18. Qd6 with 18...Qxd3. and 22 The goal here for White is to bring more forces into the attack. When attacking with the initiative, the attacker almost always looks for way to bring more pieces into the attack. Ne5 and Re1 both bring a new attacker into the fray whereas relocating the Queen doesn't add another attacking piece that wasn't already active. The Queen was already fine where it was, so moving it again seems to just waste a critical tempo for the assault.
Black:
Move 23, Qc2 is bad because Rg6 is a much stronger move? Both moves are very good for Black. Again computers can't "think" like human players can and computers don't care about simplicity or sharp play - if they calculate one good line then they play it no matter how dangerous if the calculated end result is good for it. Conversely, humans also think in terms of simplification and psychology since we human players and our human opponents do not always play optimally. Both moves are super good for Black, but apparently the computer likes the Rook move slightly more. It barely matters practically-speaking here though.
Move 17, Qc2 is better because it will launch an attack on king? Yes as I mentioned before with White threatening moves like Qd6, but here, White has time to defend now with Nf3. Again, both are completely winning options though; Black is better. Evaluation around -2.00 or -4.00 is still decisive for the Black players' favor.
Thanks
Bharat
No problem. The recurring theme at play here is better understanding how computers calculate and prefer "overkill" or optimal checkmates in situations. Not always will a human play this even if they see the chance; the human player may elect a slightly less advantageous line, but one that simplifies to an easy win where they have less chance of blundering in the fog of complications. The reason for the difference is greatly because this fog is just a mist to a computer which can accurately calculate 20+ moves deep on a quick analysis.
My answers are in bold above 
Thank you 
Bowdler attack is so stupid. Bc4 is just so illogical. It's inflexible and misplaced, because it gets hit by a6 b5 or e6 d5 and potentially Na5 and it's just clearly blunted by the f7 e6 set up. Sooo stupid
Another game on Sicilian: Bowdler Attack. I think this is one of the best games i have played in a while, after committing a blunder on move 4th . Also, this game tells you why you should not play with queen alone and develop all pieces. Additionally, what tempo can do.
https://www.chess.com/a/KoR6LPzEzPAW
At move 23, there is a only move from white which will maintain its dominance! Try to find it out
I usually play 1. e4 c5 2. Bc4 e6 , followed by d5 which after exchange of pawns give me two adjacent pawns on c5 and d5. Today, i tried 2..d6. Any thoughts on this, what you like more?
Bharat
Bowdler attack is so stupid. Bc4 is just so illogical. It's inflexible and misplaced, because it gets hit by a6 b5 or e6 d5 and potentially Na5 and it's just clearly blunted by the f7 e6 set up. Sooo stupid
Despite being stupid and giving black a comfortable game, it's so annoying everybody plays it at my level and it's not like it's refuted. I get similar structure in all of the games. White is solid in that variation I think, avoids theory and annoys the player with the black pieces.
I would say that, black is ahead of white by +1 in first 8 moves, and if doesn't blunders can win the game. Though, me and my opponents do blunder , Yes, even at my level i think 80-90% of the games with black end up on these lines only.
I would say that, black is ahead of white by +1 in first 8 moves, and if doesn't blunders can win the game. Though, me and my opponents do blunder , Yes, even at my level i think 80-90% of the games with black end up on these lines only.
+1 is engine evaluation ( that too is very low) , doesn't necessarily means humans especially beginners and intermediate level players would have the same evaluation on the position.
I guess, more than evaluation. I would say that familiarity of playing in that position helps. I am up on time( if i have played the same line before multiple times ) by 8-9 moves, which definitely helps in advantageous positions. Also, i believe that you play longer tf games, this advantage can be important. Though, i agree for beginner and intermediate even +2 is not enough, because of our incredible propensity to blunder!
Bowdler attack is so stupid. Bc4 is just so illogical. It's inflexible and misplaced, because it gets hit by a6 b5 or e6 d5 and potentially Na5 and it's just clearly blunted by the f7 e6 set up. Sooo stupid
agreed
Bowdler is not stupid at all. Bc4 is logical: develops Bf1, attacks f7 and forces the defence e6 and prepares O-O. White should play 2 Nc3 before 3 Bc4 to stop 3...d5. If black loses time with ...a6 and ...b5, then the bishop just retreats Bb3. White should of course play d3 first to prevent ...c4. On loss of time Nb8-c6-a5 just play d3 and on Nxc4 recapture dxc4 controlling central square d5 and opening the diagonal for Bc1.
1 e4 c5 2 Nc3 Nc6 3 Bc4 e6 4 d3. White is OK.
I would say that, black is ahead of white by +1 in first 8 moves, and if doesn't blunders can win the game. Though, me and my opponents do blunder , Yes, even at my level i think 80-90% of the games with black end up on these lines only.
+1 is engine evaluation ( that too is very low) , doesn't necessarily means humans especially beginners and intermediate level players would have the same evaluation on the position.
I strongly disagree with both of you. Bowdler attack is not higher than 0.3 most of the time. In my games I'm often just better as black. And +1 is a huge advantage in my opinion
I would say that, black is ahead of white by +1 in first 8 moves, and if doesn't blunders can win the game. Though, me and my opponents do blunder , Yes, even at my level i think 80-90% of the games with black end up on these lines only.
+1 is engine evaluation ( that too is very low) , doesn't necessarily means humans especially beginners and intermediate level players would have the same evaluation on the position.
I strongly disagree with both of you. Bowdler attack is not higher than 0.3 most of the time. In my games I'm often just better as black. And +1 is a huge advantage in my opinion
Openings like King's Gambit and King's Indian Defense are still somewhat alive, my point is +1 advantage doesn't really matter if the position is double edge.
+1 is enough to win, but black never gets -1 in the Bowdler attack if white plays it well. The Bowdler is rather like +0.3 for white.
#17
After either 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 a6 or 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 e6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 Nc6 6 Ndb5 d6 7 Bf4 e5 8 Bg5 black has equalised just as well, so white can just as well play 1 e4 c5 2 Nc3 and 3 Bc4
#19
White has nothing against the Najdorf or the Sveshnikov, so white can just as well play the Bowdler. It was the favorite of Adolf Anderssen, but wxas also regularly played by Yge Visser. English Attack and Yugoslav Attack lead to nothing at all: lots of theory, forced lines ending in a draw. That is why at top level they now even play 6 a3 and 6 Qd3 against the Najdorf.
Hi, I recently played a game as black.
There were couple of blunders but i believe at my level, it had lot of subtle moves! Do have a look. I have marked my annotations.
https://www.chess.com/a/noc1EdJ6zPAW
Please help me with the explanation of the following moves
White:
Move 17 and 22
Black:
Move 23, Qc2 is bad because Rg6 is a much stronger move?
Move 17, Qc2 is better because it will launch an attack on king?
Thanks
Bharat