Correspondence/Online chess encouragement/tips

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amilton542
shakedaspear wrote:

Don't do what I'm doing--get caught up in playing too many games. It's easy to,do,and seems fun but even with a few days between moves, those games can and will pile up on you and blunders will happen. Good on you for asking for help and its frankly nice to see the constructive replies. The trolls must be on vacation. 😄

Yeah I know what you mean. The key is "regulation". A reasonable handful to start with, then when some are coming to an end I create new ones. It looks like you've got loads on the go but really they're all just regulated that's the key. I'm trying to reduce my games to zero so I can enter a tourney here, I havn't done one yet.

X_PLAYER_J_X
ponz111 wrote:

I played a very strong team once. [their top player is now #2 in the USA in correspondence chess]

The game lasted 1 year. If you responded the same day that you recieved a move--it counted as no time. They would think and do emails back and forth for a week or more and send a move and then they would get a move right back and then have to start all over. After a while this was very difficult for them and they started taking vacation time and un authorized time outs.

The tournament director [I should same game director] told them they had exceeded the time limit [7 days for a move] but then they told him it was THEIR game and they could change the time limits. I did not object at all as I felt I was winning. When the game finished they had taken more than 300 days of time to my 1 day.

Very impressive ponz. It does take a different set of skill than live chess for sure. This was my first correspondence tourney having to deal with 9 different chess players who moved at different rates. It def. is a new experience.

X_PLAYER_J_X
amilton542 wrote:

Yeah I know what you mean. The key is "regulation". A reasonable handful to start with, then when some are coming to an end I create new ones. It looks like you've got loads on the go but really they're all just regulated that's the key. I'm trying to reduce my games to zero so I can enter a tourney here, I havn't done one yet.

I really opened up a can of worms when I registered. I had 9 games pop up all at once. I figured it would be maybe 1 game. However, it was like 9 all at the same time.

rtr1129

Especially in correspondence games where you have almost unlimited time, look at all of your opponents checks, captures, and attacking moves. Your first task is to see if there is a threat you must respond to. If there is a threat, then the whole positional and strategic analysis is a waste of time. You must respond to the threat. You can get pretty far by just never allowing your opponent a tactical shot against you. There is more, but that is the part that relates to the problem you mentioned.

X_PLAYER_J_X
shakedaspear wrote:

Don't do what I'm doing--get caught up in playing too many games. It's easy to,do,and seems fun but even with a few days between moves, those games can and will pile up on you and blunders will happen. Good on you for asking for help and its frankly nice to see the constructive replies. The trolls must be on vacation. 😄

Yeah I had 9 games all pop up at me when I registered. I wasn't expecting that. I was baby stepping my way in. Than boom 9 of them.

As for the trolls comment. I don't think the trolls need to troll. Its just a sad situation in which case the situation is already trolled. I lost in 6 moves lol. How can they troll me any more than the reality of the situation. They would have to be very creative trolls.

X_PLAYER_J_X
bb_gum234 wrote:
X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:

Thank you guys/gals for these encouraging words and very helpful tips.

I did feel crushed after this mistake. It is a beginner/patzer mistake. The way it happen was weird.

Playing the wrong move order (so to speak) because you're imagining a future position happens in OTB to strong players too. You hear stories like this now and then.

In CC I once thought for about an hour on a position similar to this, and this is what I played.

This is very strange and frustrating. That's when I decided for serious games I'll always wait until the next day to be sure I'm rested and not hallucinating lol.

I believe your right. I will try this helpful tip as well. I believe a lot of people have given me some very useful ideas and tips for sure.

I did not take a look that closely to the Notes section and the Analysis Board. I didn't wait on my moves as much either. I guess I was treating the game more of a live game with snappy decisions. Looking back at it now, I could have wrote down the move 6.Nc3 on a note pad. I could of let it sit there a day than came back next day to see if I still thought that move was a good move. Than I probably would of realized it just flat out hangs a piece.

Well I was in shock and really sad when I saw my opponent win a piece. However, I believe maybe it happened for a reason. Now I am talking about the game here getting nice helpful tips. Obviously if I didn't hang anything or lost I probably would of never made this forum. An I would be still completely oblivious to these other functions. I didn't pay much attention to them. I will admit. It def. was my inexperienced in correspondence chess.

It just goes to show that even if you lose a game in 100 moves or 2 moves or even 6 moves like me. Every chess loss is a way to learn something new. I have learned new functions and idea's in correspondence chess. I would have not found out these idea's had it not been for my loss here today.

MyNameIsAdis

Man, you was playing a lot of blitz, thats why you have made mistake in correspodence chess. I remember that you were against Correspodence Chess before. Just play it and enjoy. Dont worry you have rematch against Pawel :)

Mal_Smith

You've got three days per move! If you are facing an IM then you need to use all your time & resources to have even a slight chance. Read a couple of books on the particular Sicilian you're using, check out any databases to hand, google search the opening, watch ten videos... then spend many hours with the analysis board checking dozens of lines and thousands of moves. Then hope the IM is not doing the same, and is just moving off the top of his head...

MyNameIsAdis
Mal_Smith wrote:

You've got three days per move! If you are facing an IM then you need to use all your time & resources to have even a slight chance. Read a couple of books on the particular Sicilian you're using, check out any databases to hand, google search the opening, watch ten videos... then spend many hours with the analysis board checking dozens of lines and thousands of moves. Then hope the IM is not doing the same, and is just moving off the top of his head...

I agree !

clarapca

Hi X player!. First of all dont fall for the mistake of playing too many games at the same time, and try to stay in the same game speed.

I mean dont play a 24hrs/move and a 3 days, why? you tend to analyse the games at the same speed (rushing to the 3 day) and your chess skills drops. Also put yourself a limit, myabe 9 was too much to begin with. I think from 7 to 11 games you are ok but if you add more games you are toasted. I made that mistake and Im playing 3 tournaments, 30 games at once (I dont remember even my ideas from one game to another) and with different rythms a 24hrs/move a 48/move and a 3 days.

So I think I can advice you not to follow my steps Laughing 

I didnt know that consulting books or database was allowed, either way Im trying to play as I play over the board, without "help" but it may be usefull to learn some line in depth while you play a game.

Fight on! and stay in correspondence

Mal_Smith
clarapca wrote:

I didnt know that consulting books or database was allowed, either way Im trying to play as I play over the board, without "help" ...

It helps to read the rules! You always play "with help", either from memory or books. If you're allowed to use books, then why not?

Doirse
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Doirse wrote:

I would suggest getting a good opening repertoire book and following the mainlines in the opening.  You're allowed to refer to opening books in online chess (just not databases or engines).

Then I'd suggest using the analysis board a LOT!!

Database use is allowed: https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/articles/1444774-what-are-the-rules-for-playing-

Third and Fourth bullet items.

Engines, of course, are not allowed.

ah, I did not know that!  I've always just used opening books

kasmersensei

It is easy to make mistakes. I remember a game I lost where I did a deep analysis one night and played the move (instead of waiting and rechecking it later). Ended up losing my queen for a rook.

Recently had something similiar, but I had noticed earlier that capturing a pawn would lose me a piece to a queen check. For some reason, when I later looked at the board, forgot my previous analysis and played that move. Notes do definitely help. That and flipping the board around to look at the other player's view.

Best of luck in your future matches.

smith8800

First trick is don't resign unless you are facing mate in 1 (and even then I wouldn't recommend resignation).

Second trick is don't worry about losing in your first few games.

Third trick is challenge the player to an unrated game (or two, or more) and see how you do.

Fourth trick is see the advantage in every position, even if there doesn't seem to be one. It helps.

Ziryab
ponz111 wrote:

... or is it more like 30 days for 10 moves?

AFAIK, that time control is not available on this site. I've played at that control on other sites.

Ziryab
bb_gum234 wrote:

Playing the wrong move order (so to speak) because you're imagining a future position happens in OTB to strong players too. You hear stories like this now and then.

I messed up the move order in exactly this way against an IM a couple of months ago. That cost me a rook, and I resigned.

I was using databases, but made my move instantly at 5:00 am based on memory of the line I had looked at in some GM games.

 

The other game was a hard fought draw.

X_PLAYER_J_X

My very first tournament is over

Wooooooo Hooooooo

http://www.chess.com/tournament/itrsquos-all-skill-tournament-22

My Final Score was 12-2-4

I finished second place.

The only person I lost to was against an International Master.

Not to bad I don't think. The first game didn't go very well because of my horrible blunder. Which you can see in the beginning of this forum post here.

However, here was my second game incase you was wondering how it went down.

I don't think it was super bad.

ponz111

X Player X  Do you realize you missed a win against pawel9421?

However, over all you did well! Congratulations! Kudos!

X_PLAYER_J_X
ponz111 wrote:

X Player X  Do you realize you missed a win against pawel9421?

However, over all you did well! Congratulations! Kudos!

Well I honestly have to say I didn't do any engine check over it or anything.

I felt like I had at least a draw some where but than messed it all up.

I didn't realize I had a win that is for sure.

Where exactly do you believe I was winning at?

I clearly must of missed something.

ponz111

X Player X   Look at your 33rd move.