Is chess for smart people?

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lexbabu wrote:
isabela14 wrote:

In the world of chess players, anyone below their ratings are dumb and anyone above "feels" smart. For non chess players, yes they see us as look smart for seeming to be thinking and solving complex puzzles.

This is a wrong type of mentality that can surmount to foolishness. Carlsen beat Bill Gates who is currently the richest man in the world by 12 seconds. Bill Gates had 1 min 10 sec left and Carlsen had 18 seconds and so used the 12 seconds to defeat Gates. So before you call lowly rated players dumb know that Bill Gates can by Carlsen and the twelve generations before his existence to serve him so stop judging people. Actually according to Forbes most great chess players are not that great at business. So before you call yourself smart or think you are a genius think again and this goes to other people in this group because the world works different. So next time you judge people get your facts right.

So now there is a vice-versa relationship between intelligence and how much money you have? Wow, how about all the smart people that are not the smartest, so don't get promoted all the way to the top? Are they all dumb because they are not rich. Capitalism by definition is anti-meritocratic. And also there is more than one type of intelligence. One does not have to be good at business to be intelligent. It takes some intelligence to come up with relevant candidate moves, and ask intelligent questions relating to the position. Granted a lot of chess is also pattern recognition and practising tactics, not necessarily exclusively intelligence based, but still... Also of course there are many jobs that require much more intelligence than chess, but what got me about this remark is the idea that someone is intelligent just because he is rich. Maybe I read between the lines wrong I don't know.

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Ageiswisdom wrote:

Why does light travel faster than sound.... To permit the American to appear bright before he speaks....Yes! .... Ask a stupid question to get an intelligent answer.

Evidently you don't think much of Americans.  But fortunately for you, Americans thought much of the British in their darkest hour.

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BeepBeepImA747 wrote:

If you don't play chess ur dumb.

I don't think so

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NP173E18GM wrote:
BeepBeepImA747 wrote:

If you don't play chess ur dumb.

I don't think so

If we look at the data we can see no correlation between the lalalala extreme intelligent crap lalala jajajaja we came to the conclusion lalalaala.

Why do we even discuss this? Leon is troll.

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Morphy, Fisher to name a few,  persons who played high level chess but suffered from mental illness, but never got professional help. smart?

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WalangAlam wrote:

Morphy, Fisher to name a few,  persons who played high level chess but suffered from mental illness, but never got professional help. smart?

The people you are talking about were top class chess players. But this has nothing to do with being smart.

If you are good at chess you are good at chess. There is no correlation between being smart/making wise life choices and being good at chess.

 

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Perfect answer! I got low IQ but I'm sure I can beat Einstein in chess.
Cubronzo wrote:
LeonSKennedy992 wrote:

what is your opinion?

Chess is for people who likes chess.

 

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FBloggs wrote:
Ageiswisdom wrote:

Why does light travel faster than sound.... To permit the American to appear bright before he speaks....Yes! .... Ask a stupid question to get an intelligent answer.

Evidently you don't think much of Americans.  But fortunately for you, Americans thought much of the British in their darkest hour.>>>

Hi. But taking this seriously, I don't believe that America would have declared war on Nazi Germany if it hadn't been in America's interest to do so. Yes, Britain couldn't have beaten Germany but Germany had already failed to win the war and it was going to be a stalemate. Even so, the USA, when it joined the war, insisted on running it and, of course, they had no combat experience whatsoever and didn't really know how to fight except by building up vastly superior numbers, with better equipment. America prolonged the war by about a year due to inept strategy and caused the situation where the USSR controlled Eastern Germany. Just sayin'.

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Chess is for people who have a lot of time to waste in their hands; as if wasting time is smart.

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dpnorman wrote:

Ofgeniuskind wrote:
I have a IQ of 152 from my school's IQ test.

As does the entire internet. 

make sense

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Optimissed wrote:
FBloggs wrote:
Ageiswisdom wrote:

Why does light travel faster than sound.... To permit the American to appear bright before he speaks....Yes! .... Ask a stupid question to get an intelligent answer.

Evidently you don't think much of Americans.  But fortunately for you, Americans thought much of the British in their darkest hour.>>>

Hi. But taking this seriously, I don't believe that America would have declared war on Nazi Germany if it hadn't been in America's interest to do so. Yes, Britain couldn't have beaten Germany but Germany had already failed to win the war and it was going to be a stalemate. Even so, the USA, when it joined the war, insisted on running it and, of course, they had no combat experience whatsoever and didn't really know how to fight except by building up vastly superior numbers, with better equipment. America prolonged the war by about a year due to inept strategy and caused the situation where the USSR controlled Eastern Germany. Just sayin'.

You obviously don't know much about military history.  Many US military leaders were veterans of WWI.  And evidently you're not aware that in addition to the war in Europe, the US was fighting the Japanese in the Pacific.  The US was the only country in the world capable of beating either the Germans or the Japanese.  I don't care if you dislike America.  That costs me nothing.  Our nations have been and continue to be close allies, regardless of people like you.

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FBloggs wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
FBloggs wrote:
Ageiswisdom wrote:

Why does light travel faster than sound.... To permit the American to appear bright before he speaks....Yes! .... Ask a stupid question to get an intelligent answer.

Evidently you don't think much of Americans.  But fortunately for you, Americans thought much of the British in their darkest hour.>>>

Hi. But taking this seriously, I don't believe that America would have declared war on Nazi Germany if it hadn't been in America's interest to do so. Yes, Britain couldn't have beaten Germany but Germany had already failed to win the war and it was going to be a stalemate. Even so, the USA, when it joined the war, insisted on running it and, of course, they had no combat experience whatsoever and didn't really know how to fight except by building up vastly superior numbers, with better equipment. America prolonged the war by about a year due to inept strategy and caused the situation where the USSR controlled Eastern Germany. Just sayin'.

You obviously don't know much about military history.  Many US military leaders were veterans of WWI.  And evidently you're not aware that in addition to the war in Europe, the US was fighting the Japanese in the Pacific.  The US was the only country in the world capable of beating either the Germans or the Japanese.  I don't care if you dislike America.  That costs me nothing.  Our nations have been and continue to be close allies, regardless of people like you.

This thread is not the place for your discussion. 

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BeepBeepImA747 wrote:
If you don't play chess ur dumb.

 over exaggeration much

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.. "Smart people, have better wired brains."

https://www.studyfinds.org/brain-wiring-intelligence/

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At its core, chess is really only a game of pattern recognition. So I believe that it is not just for "smart" people. However, I will mention that what is often thought of as "smart", are talents such as memory, or calculative-ability, or perhaps even creativity; all of which certainly do not hurt a chess player. Most people do not want to learn a new game (like chess) for the fear of it being "too difficult" - even if this is not true. I famous chess GM (I am not certain, but I think it was Botvinik) once stated, "chess takes five minutes to learn, but a lifetime to master." 

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Chess is for smart and dumb people.  Of course the former tend to win more games.  ;-)

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mckn3hd wrote:

This thread is not the place for your discussion. >>>>>

Please accept my apologies. The person annoyed me and I should have ignored it.

P.S. the subject is whether there's a positive correlation between playing chess well and being clever/having a high IQ. It's impossible that there should be a negative correlation. There's bound to be a positive correlation, because chess is a pastime requiring systematic thought. People who think well, think well across the board and those who don't think well probably believe that playing chess doesn't take any brains at all. This is a stupid thread.

 

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/02/garry-kasparov-wrong-women-playing-chess/

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If by smart you mean me then yes it is for smart people
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Mostly yes.