is Steinitz "The Father of Modern Chess"

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chessmaster54458

do you agree with this tytle

Knightly_News

Is the mother of the father of modern chess to be considered the grandmother of modern chess? Was she ever interviewed?

Crazychessplaya

More like a great-grandfather's cousin, twice removed.

DrSpudnik

I'm the nephew of hypermodern checkers.

Bronco

Mama's baby.

Fathers maybe?

DrSpudnik

Ol' Granny Weinstein. Wink

Bronco

Liked to drink her wine.....

DrSpudnik

From a stein.

chessmaster54458

come on guys...steinitz was the first person to look at chess as a science

Bronco

SCIENCE!

He blinded me with science.

chessmaster54458
Bronco wrote:

SCIENCE!

He blinded me with science.

steinitz pretty much pioneered positional play..

 

i mean lets be serious...am i wrong with this thinking

X_PLAYER_J_X
chessmaster54458 wrote:
Bronco wrote:

SCIENCE!

He blinded me with science.

steinitz pretty much pioneered positional play..

 

i mean lets be serious...am i wrong with this thinking

Yes you are wrong.

William Steinitz is the Father of Classical Chess.

Aron Nimzowitsch is the Father of Hypermoden Chess.

 

Modern Chess today is a combination of the 2.

DrSpudnik

Awwww, they had a baby!

patzermike

I see a huge jump in sophistication between Steinitz and Lasker. Lasker had a MUCH more flexible style and list of positional considerations in his mind. He deeply understood that chess is all about imbalances. He would cheerfully accept an awful pawn structure if he thought he had dynamic compensation, or a cramped position if he thought he had positional trumps that would prevail in the long run. Steinitz and Tarrasch were much more limited in their understanding of "positional play".

Raspberry_Yoghurt
Bronco wrote:

SCIENCE!

He blinded me with science.

chessmaster54458
tkbunny wrote:

Anand, batman, anand ...

is anand greater then carlsen?

DrSpudnik

The holy cow took a holy crap.

nasir391
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simaginfan

For the few who have taken the question seriously, the answer is here  https://www.chess.com/blog/simaginfan/my-favorite-game-of-number-4-louis-paulsen  

kindaspongey

"... Wilhelm Steinitz, first world champion, almost single-handedly established the ground-rules for modern positional chess. ..." - IM Craig Pritchett (2011)

"... Generally considered to be the world's strongest player from around 1870 to the early 1890s, Steinitz was by far that era's most profound thinker. He approached chess in the main strategically, revolutionizing our understanding of position and approach to planning, ..." - IM Craig Pritchett (2011)

"... The analytical work of Steinitz extends over thirty years and is very valuable. In the Field, in the Tribune, in his publication International Chess Magazine and in his book Modern Chess Instructor, one may find his penetrating and profound analysis. The world did not comprehend how much Steinitz had given it ... the chess world did not understand Steinitz, neither his manner of play nor his written word which treated of his 'Modern School.' ... Now let us turn back to Steinitz and demonstrate his revolutionary achievement from his history and from his writings. ..." - Emanuel Lasker (~1925)

"... Underlying [Wilhem Steinitz’s Modern Chess Instructor] is Steinitz’s explanation – and fervent defense – of what he called the 'Modern School.' Its basic tenets: The ultimate objective of chess is to capture the opponent’s king but that should not be the primary goal. Attacks cannot defeat proper defense unless they are founded on some previously acquired positional superiority, such as better development, pawn structure or piece mobility. This was revolutionary at the time. ..." - GM Andy Soltis (2017)

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