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ucscparakat
Nov 28, 2022
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#41

The idea of making access to this site dependent on one's nationality is ridiculous. Playing chess is not a political act. Get real.

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Optimissed
Nov 28, 2022
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#42
ShyMeower wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
ShyMeower wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ShyMeower wrote:
Rokeringen wrote:
Everything is politics. You cannot expect to play games in the international community and at the same time do not respect international law. You will not expect to get a job if you don’t respect people.

All over the world sports are taking a stand against things like exploitation and war crimes. But not chess.com. I expect it is because they have a large user base in the said countries

This is where you are wrong. There isn't any factual corelation between chess and politics. 
You can't respect or disrespect any international law by just playing chess. 
This site is apolitical for the same reason, why any school should be apolitical.
Knowledge of given things isn't and never should be conditioned by any political opinion.

This is obviously subjective. The game of chess itself isn't necessarily political. It's two people moving pieces on a board. 

But there are probably a lot of people who see correlations between chess and politics. Any time you have people (which play chess) and conflict (which chess is a game of) there will be politics of some kind. 

If you type in "is chess a political game" in some search engine you will probably get mostly yes answers. 

Politics is defined as:
"activities aimed at improving someone's status or increasing power within an organization"
Your chess rating, winning chess games etc.. gives you zero power and arguably only very little social status in compare to other skills..

A bad definition. Almost useless.

Define bad definition.

One which I couldn't accept, even after attempted persuasion.

Or: One which is incorrect.

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Argonautidae
Nov 28, 2022
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#43
Rokeringen wrote:
When the EU parliament deems a country a state sponsor of terrorism, the world should act. If every company or individual don’t care, the EU or UN bodies are useless and we undermine their existence, leaving states and dictators to do whatever they want without repercussions. It is the actions that matter. Not the paper the parliament signed.

The moral of the story is indeed "the EU or UN bodies are useless". Actually, the European Parliament has only two functions in practice: the first, and most important one, is to give European political parties a place to send their annoying members, a place where they can enjoy a lucrative retirement, far from national politics. The second one is to make performative statements, which are either useless or detrimental.

 

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AerryChris
Nov 28, 2022
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#44

Just let people enjoy chess man. I'm not up for preventing people from doing stuff because of their nationality. Each individual is responsible for their own action, so unless you have some evidence that someone here is complicit, then this thread should be seen as political and closed.

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ucscparakat
Nov 28, 2022
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#45

"No religious or political debate or commentary in the regular forums. Religion and politics are important and deeply personal, but Chess.com is a friendly community where we come together around a common love for chess and debating these two topics tends to pull people apart. If you would like to discuss religion or politics, you may do so in many of the private clubs on Chess.com."

 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/forum-posting-rules---be-nice--no-religious-or-political-debate

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Rokeringen
Nov 28, 2022
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#46
Make no mistake. This is a discussion on the policy of of chess.com whose business model is to make a community for chess players. Not foreign politics. As part of the community, we should all be able to comment on the rules and policies.

In fact, just like a democracy, the community gets better if the members voice their opinions. A big difference, however, is that in a democracy the people chose their political direction and are accountable for their elected leaders actions. Leaders are overthrown or not re-elected if they don’t act in the public interest. Aka the people are accountable.
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BlueHen86
Nov 28, 2022
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#47
NervesofButter wrote:

Thats like saying all forum posts should make sense and be chess related.  Choosing to remain ignorant is a long standing tradition.

They should be, the Forum is titled "General Chess Discussion", not a big ask for a chess website.

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Wits-end
Nov 28, 2022
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#48
NervesofButter wrote:

Well i guess its been about 12 minute since we had a anti-Russia/Political/"I took a PoliSci class and now im the foremost expert on international affairs" post.

Hey, I had political science in college. That makes me the foremost expert. 😉

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ucscparakat
Nov 28, 2022
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Optimissed
Nov 28, 2022
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#50

By the way, what is the point of playing the game of football, with a referee who is such a moron that he doesn't even know the rules and gives a penalty for an accidental handball?? Anybody know??
Portugal 2 Uruguay 0

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ucscparakat
Nov 28, 2022
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#51

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Optimissed
Nov 28, 2022
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#52
NervesofButter wrote:

ya gotta love those uneven site rules on politics.  One thing gets locked and another doesn't.


Generally if they flutter down by chance on a thread where there's just been bad behaviour. Might be if it's reported.

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ucscparakat
Nov 28, 2022
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#53

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Optimissed
Nov 28, 2022
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#54
NervesofButter wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

By the way, what is the point of playing the game of football, with a referee who is such a moron that he doesn't even know the rules and gives a penalty for an accidental handball?? Anybody know??
Portugal 2 Uruguay 0

American football sucks now.  It was fine when we could argue over good and bad calls.   And not surprisingly its always a bad call when it goes against your team.  But no such thing as a bad call ever existed when it benefited your team.  Now we have instant replay that shows a play frame by frame.  Plays have been overturned because the replay showed that a blade of grass touched the guys butt a split second before he had the ball. 


This was a referee either who can't tell when someone handles accidentally or doesn't know the rules. There's no doubt he was wrong, either way. Completely wrong decision: therefore incompetent referee.

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ucscparakat
Nov 28, 2022
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#55