What is the worst opening?

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CharlestonViennaGambit
JETINATE wrote:
The worst opening is the boncloud

Please remember what I said.

CharlestonViennaGambit
CharlestonViennaGambit wrote:
TheBlunderMaster356 wrote:
CharlestonViennaGambit wrote:
TheBlunderMaster356 wrote:
CharlestonViennaGambit wrote:

What is the worst opening that either side can play in chess? This is just for fun purposes.

In my opinion, it is the Damiano Defense, as it is proven to be losing by force as black.

how's damiano defense losing by force?

It would be losing via 3. Nxe5 Qe7 4. Nf3 Qxe4+ 5. Be2, where although White is not up any material, the advantage is still +1.98, at least according to Stockfish.

i meant losing by force and not positionally worse. the irish gambit is worse because you are simply giving up a knight without enough compensation

Well, if 3. Nxe5 fxe5, Qh5+ is winning by force for White. If g6, then Qxe5+ wins the rook and if instead Black plays Ke7, 5. Qxe5+ Nd7 6. Bc4+, Black either gets checkmated or loses back the material with interest.

By the way, 2. f6 is mistake in Damiano defense.

insane

Literally this thread

Another person: I think this is the worst

OP:
 NOONONONONOOOO STOP IT DAMAINO IS THE WORST!!!!! Damaino is literally losing by first bro STOP ITDAMAINO IS WORST!!% WAUHDCUIAOHFSOIASJFIOAJSDOIWD I KNOW THE OPENING YOU NAMED IS -300 FOR BLACK BUT DAMAINO WORST!!!!

In fact, Mikhail Chigorin played the damaino several times and there is even a line named after him (Damaino Defense, Damaino Gambit, Chigorin Gambit)

trimalo

none, all opening exist for a good reason, they can be played to surprise your opponents for instance. 

insane


Fried fox vs Damaino. Which one is worse? Exactly, not damaino. The fried fox

Smoothsquirlel
True
SeanTheSheep021

I hate it when I play as black, and white plays d4

CharlestonViennaGambit
jli30c wrote:

Literally this thread

Another person: I think this is the worst

OP:
 NOONONONONOOOO STOP IT DAMAINO IS THE WORST!!!!! Damaino is literally losing by first bro STOP ITDAMAINO IS WORST!!% WAUHDCUIAOHFSOIASJFIOAJSDOIWD I KNOW THE OPENING YOU NAMED IS -300 FOR BLACK BUT DAMAINO WORST!!!!

In fact, Mikhail Chigorin played the damaino several times and there is even a line named after him (Damaino Defense, Damaino Gambit, Chigorin Gambit)

I'm just trying to prove my point. Plus, with human play, Damiano is worse

CharlestonViennaGambit
jli30c wrote:

Fried fox vs Damaino. Which one is worse? Exactly, not damaino. The fried fox

Black can often castle by hand in the Fried Fox and be safe.

CharlestonViennaGambit
allanzixi2077 wrote:
or 1.f4 e6 2. g4 Qh5#

That's Fools Mate, and it is no opening.

Mazetoskylo
CharlestonViennaGambit wrote:
allanzixi2077 wrote:
or 1.f4 e6 2. g4 Qh5#

That's Fools Mate, and it is no opening.

Basically, this is just wrong notation.

SGP_Chess

The King sac gambit

CharlestonViennaGambit
StudyMaster15678 wrote:

The King sac gambit

What's that?

BunWithGun6392

Sodium

CharlestonViennaGambit
BunWithGun6392 wrote:

Sodium

It's not so bad, it develops a piece.

BishopAdvanced

Magnus Carlsen attack:

Owclound attack:

Hikaru vs Magnus belike:

CharlestonViennaGambit
BishopAdvanced wrote:

Magnus Carlsen attack:

Owclound attack:

Hikaru vs Magnus belike:

What am I looking at?

CharlestonViennaGambit
Freeforall80 wrote:

1. g4 is worst first move.

Please remember what I said.

CharlestonViennaGambit
Mazetoskylo wrote:
CharlestonViennaGambit wrote:
allanzixi2077 wrote:
or 1.f4 e6 2. g4 Qh5#

That's Fools Mate, and it is no opening.

Basically, this is just wrong notation.

Wait how is that wrong notation?

Rme2020-20

1.g4 for sure