What's your opinion on flaggers?

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badger_song wrote:

I'm not bothered by flaggers, they won within both the scope and spirit of the rules; not an issue whatsoever.

Agreed.

Johnkagey

BorpB0rpImA737 wrote:

It was a drawn endgame. YOU cheated your opponent out of rating points. Go back to garbage collecting flagger.

it's not my fault they didn't know how to checkmark with a king and castle.they had plenty of time to do it in.

PixelByPixel

You mean the rook?

spawkle529

OP is a troll. End of discussion.

TheCalculatorKid

I flag and I'm proud of it. I've lost count of the amount of games that are close with about 3 seconds left and I do unprotected checks or attacks hoping for a blunder or hoping they stumble on time. I'd say atleast a quarter of my winning moves are of that variety and should I feel bad about it? Hell no I shouldn't, if anything I'm handing my opponent the win on the plate by blundering a queen and if they can think under that time pressure then fair play to them, most people around my level can't do.

Onecellularbrain

Using time is another challenge in chess if you are in a tournament. Don't forget that sometimes you can win with time too nobody knows. it is both a choice if you use time you play worse but may win with time and if you dont care time and concantrate on the game you can win with  mate

jbent02
BorpB0rpImA737 wrote:
The goal of a chess game should be to play well not to win. I don't care about rating, I just care about playing a decent game.

Could have fooled me

thegreatauk
BorpB0rpImA737 wrote:
It's even worse when they flag in bullet. I play bullet to play real chess, not this garbage man crap.

Ever heard? Bullet isn't really chess. It's there for fun and time is the most important factor... So how many times ave you flagged?

SmyslovFan
thegreatauk wrote:
BorpB0rpImA737 wrote:
It's even worse when they flag in bullet. I play bullet to play real chess, not this garbage man crap.

Ever heard? Bullet isn't really chess. It's there for fun and time is the most important factor... So how many times ave you flagged?

As Alekhine said, the clock is part of the game. 

But to claim that time is the most important factor, even in bullet, is to ignore the reality that the best bullet players in the world are Naka, Carlsen, and other top GMs. If the clock was really that  important, you'd have video gamers at the top of the bullet leader boards.

 

If blitz chess is chess on speed, bullet chess is chess on crack. But it's still chess.

thegreatauk
SmyslovFan wrote:
thegreatauk wrote:
BorpB0rpImA737 wrote:
It's even worse when they flag in bullet. I play bullet to play real chess, not this garbage man crap.

Ever heard? Bullet isn't really chess. It's there for fun and time is the most important factor... So how many times ave you flagged?

As Alekhine said, the clock is part of the game. 

But to claim that time is the most important factor, even in bullet, is to ignore the reality that the best bullet players in the world are Naka, Carlsen, and other top GMs. If the clock was really that  important, you'd have video gamers at the top of the bullet leader boards.

 

If blitz chess is chess on speed, bullet chess is chess on crack. But it's still chess.

You are right. But I mean that the clock is much bigger factor. Also if you look at player like Naka he plays for a time advantage. But yes it still is chess, just more with the clock.

thegreatauk

Yeah, I figured that...

Hedgehog1963

"They say "Fire is the time in which we burn.""

TheCalculatorKid

Winning on time, when losing on points, is massively satisfying. 

Caesar49bc
BorpB0rpImA737 wrote:
If you win on time ur a patzer

It's used to be weaker players against a higher rated opponent would try and complicate a position to force the opponent to eat up his clock. But increment stopped both that and adjurned games.

Nowadays, people win on time because the opponent lost track of how much time has, or the nefarious reason that they can't win the game, so they leave their computer and let their clock run down in order to inconvenience their opponent.

The opponent is forced to sit and watch the clock run down because the sore loser will make a single move when they get close to flagging just to see if their opponent got bored and left the computer. That type of behavior should be considered abusive if the player is on the verge of a forced mate.

TitanChess666
You have to be stupid to be flagged by stupid flaggers
IcyAvaleigh
it is a fact flaggers are the most awesome and tactical players
11CHESSQUEEN11

who are flaggers?

Caesar49bc

FLAGGER: a person who lets his time run out in a losing or clearly lost game.

Often they will move at some point, usually with less than 2 minutes on their clock in the hope that the opponent wandered away from the computer and forgot about the game.

IcyAvaleigh
isn't a flagger someone who just moves fast random moves to time out his/her opponents?
Caesar49bc
IcyAvaleigh wrote:
isn't a flagger someone who just moves fast random moves to time out his/her opponents?

That could also be true.

The OP didn't really give any context to which type of flagging he was refering to.