Why do people offer to draw instead of resigning?
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DragonoftheEclipse
Jan 8, 2024
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#41
Anyway, I got the answer I needed. Thanks! Y’all won’t see me on this thread again!
Jan 8, 2024
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#42
They are sore losers. That's all. Whenever somebody does that, I usually click the "Don't show draw offers for this game" button.
Jan 8, 2024
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#43
DragonoftheEclipse wrote:
@Corporal_Jones
Oh wait! Look what I found!
“…so being rude is nothing in what they are capable of.
I don't believe in democracy, voting for a bunch of people you know nothing about and letting them have the reigns of power to ruin your life seems dumb to me…”
Everyone was talking about kids being rude then… poof! Out of nowhere comes “I don’t believe in democracy.” This is the very first mention of something that smells of politics, or at least opens a doorway.
Oh wait! Look what I found!
“…so being rude is nothing in what they are capable of.
I don't believe in democracy, voting for a bunch of people you know nothing about and letting them have the reigns of power to ruin your life seems dumb to me…”
Everyone was talking about kids being rude then… poof! Out of nowhere comes “I don’t believe in democracy.” This is the very first mention of something that smells of politics, or at least opens a doorway.
Try and get your facts straight sunshine.
hermanjohnell wrote:My view is that there´s a huge difference between kids and adults. Do you think that 8 year olds should get to vote?
They said that before I mentioned anything about politics, they instigated it, not me, get your facts straight before you post your errors, try and do some research, you know like looking to see what was said before, maybe might help.
Jan 8, 2024
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#44
King17222 wrote:
One time, I was up 20 points of material, and my opponent offered like 5 draws before giving up and keeping me waiting for his time to end.
Were they frilly draws with a little angel sewn on the front?
Sometimes it is legit. If it's not a clear winning possition it may have it's meaning to offer draw. Not everything is child behaviour...
Jan 8, 2024
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#47
yeah, but it said I was up 20 points of material so no reason to offer a draw
Jan 9, 2024
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#48
Possibly related to offering a draw when losing, is when a substantially lower rated player offers a draw in a seemingly equal position as their time runs short.
Jan 9, 2024
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#49
I once saw an adult offering a draw to a kid because the adult was losing.
Jan 9, 2024
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#50
I've refused to accept draw offers when i feel i still have a good chance to win. At my level i don't always see what my opponent sees. Later i've felt a but foolish as the draw "appears" inevitable. It's part of my slow learning process i suppose. If it were otb, perhaps there would be opportunity after the game to discuss and have better understanding of what the opponent saw and when they saw it.
My siblings make fun of me when I resign but I keep telling them it's rude not too when you hit a losing position. At least one that is absolutely losing. I hate it when my opponent blunders a piece in the opening then resigns because there is always a chance i could mes up or run out of time. The only time I really resign is when it's like my king vs. pawn(s) with opposition.
AbyssalSludge wrote:
They are sore losers. That's all. Whenever somebody does that, I usually click the "Don't show draw offers for this game" button.
Where do you find that button?
llama_l wrote:
hermanjohnell wrote:
llama_l wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
llama_l wrote:
I played in an OTB event recently. I was a piece up against an 8 year old. About every 5 moves he offered me a draw.
I didn't take it as rude. Kids don't realize it's dumb.
It is rude. Excessive draw offers are also against the rules.
I’ve been in a similar position, except my 12 year old opponent was offering a draw every move. I had a forced mate in 8 or 10 and was trying to work it out.
I laughed at the draw offers, recorded each on my scoresheet, and after the game explained to the player and his dad that the offers were inappropriate. As far as I know, he never repeated the behavior. A few years later, he was one of the top high school players in our city. Now living far away as an adult, he joined the club’s online events during COVID, beating most of the top players.
I teach children and serve as TD for about a dozen youth events per year. I am constantly telling the children that such draw offers are inappropriate. They still occur, but I like to think I’ve helped reduce them somewhat among our local players.
These inappropriate draw offers will always exist when players are new and/or young. They must be patiently discouraged.
If it had been every move I would have complained. I wasn't exaggerating that he was only 8 though. I feel like it's awfully young. At one point he was playing with the captured pieces like action figures and became animated enough that it was distracting and I told him to stop.
He was too young to be rude.
Yeah, exactly. He was just being a kid.
I mean, if he'd acted really badly then I would have complained to someone (maybe his father who was there), but that didn't happen. He was just being a normal kid.
Careful not to stereotype kids because you might find that some are quite pleasant to be around. Also remember that to him it might have looked drawn, maybe because of inexperiance?
Jan 9, 2024
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#54
EarendilStarBearer wrote:
AbyssalSludge wrote:
They are sore losers. That's all. Whenever somebody does that, I usually click the "Don't show draw offers for this game" button.
Where do you find that button?
It appears during a draw offer if you are using a browser. AFAIK, the app lacks this option.
Jan 9, 2024
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#56
Wits-end wrote:
Kids are always cute, from a reasonable distance...
Far enough where you can't hear or see them?
Jan 9, 2024
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#57
EarendilStarBearer wrote:
AbyssalSludge wrote:
They are sore losers. That's all. Whenever somebody does that, I usually click the "Don't show draw offers for this game" button.
Where do you find that button?
under the yes/no buttons.
I really hate it when people do this. They'll spam draws, and once they don't feel like spamming more they just abandon the game and make you wait for like 6 minutes to actually get the game counted as a win for you. Its toxic and annoying. If you're gonna be a sore loser, don't play online chess.
llama_l wrote:
EarendilStarBearer wrote:
Careful not to stereotype kids
He was playing with the captured pieces as if they were action figures.
I had some unkind things to say to you but chess.com's auto bot flagged it...
No offense, I just know sometimes anger and annoyance can get the better of people, me especially and it tend to cloud rational thinking. It does sound to me like he was being dumb though if he was playing with the pieces.
Corporal_Jones wrote:
Wits-end wrote:
Kids are always cute, from a reasonable distance...
Far enough where you can't hear or see them?
Corporal, I don't mind just accusations, and by just I mean right opinions. However, you are making a part to whole fallacy. if you don't know what it is, look it up. it seems to me that you are making the right accusation but also are extremely bias against kids which is clouding your judgement.