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Matthew-Gross

Why do players pay money to have their free speech rights violated by arbitrary and capricious rules of chess.com? Who elected chess.com as the ruler of what we can and cannot say? What will chess.com do next?

jbushell

You're an [edited].

kleelof

There is nothing in the TOS requiring you to stay.

macer75

I'm one of the biggest critics of censorship on chess.com, but still I have to admit that chess.com does not violate free speech in legal terms. Chess.com has the right to censor what you post on its forums, and it makes sense for it to do so for the purpose of increasing revenue - a great majority of people (not including me) would agree that some censorship is good, and if there are too many posts in the forums that are generally considered offensive it could very likely drive potential customers away. So even though I don't like censorship, I can understand why chess.com does it.

macer75

A fitting analogy would be you writing something and submitting it to a newspaper or magazine for publication. You have the right to say (pretty much) whatever you want in the piece of writing you submit, and the newspaper or magazine has the right to not publish it.

nobodyreally

ssssst.

Matthew-Gross

I have been involved in the chess community for 30 years. Chess.com is in it only for the money. Chess is not about money, chess has a higher purpose than profit. Chess.com will learn the hard way.

Serphiot

macer75
Stoeptegeltje wrote:
 

I mostly agree, except there are some "consequences" which are a violation of free speech.

Matthew-Gross
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kleelof

They use mind control. You should wear a tinfoil hat to protect yourself.

Serphiot

See also this: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100130151055AAe9mQR

You cannot say whatever you want whereever you want. Chess.com has the right to set it's own houserule's. 

But I agree that if they Ban you, or it has consequences that deprive you from using functionality that you payed for, they should refund you for what you are missing.

macer75

The so-called "best answer" on that thread is also bs. Freedom of speech doesn't just mean you can disagree with the government. And profanity in public is not "assualt." As far as I know, if it presents the risk of possibly instigating conflict then in some cases you could be punished, but never have I heard of profanity in public being equated with assault, from a reliable source.

kleelof

Wow! He's awfully good at typing for a retard.

nobodyreally
kaynight wrote:

Last time I looked, Chess.com. do not force you to subscribe.

They forced me.

Gomer_Pyle
Matthew-Gross wrote:

I have been involved in the chess community for 30 years. Chess.com is in it only for the money. Chess is not about money, chess has a higher purpose than profit. Chess.com will learn the hard way.

Chess.com is a business. The primary purpose of a business is to make money. It is irrevelant whether they care about chess or not. If they don't make money they will cease to exist.

Gomer_Pyle
balente wrote:

And how do buisness make money? By giving service people like and agree pay for.

Yes, but it doesn't matter whether they care about their product or not as long as the customer is happy.

lessthan10

Wait, I don't understand. How exactly is chess.com violating our freedom of speech? We're here to play chess. I don't think that much profanity is needed. Just play.

nobodyreally

I do believe it's time chess.com closes down this thread.

Wink

ThomasJEvans
Stoeptegeltje wrote:

See also this: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100130151055AAe9mQR

You cannot say whatever you want whereever you want. Chess.com has the right to set it's own houserule's. 

But I agree that if they Ban you, or it has consequences that deprive you from using functionality that you payed for, they should refund you for what you are missing.

No, because you have violated their TOS/equivalent.