gg is arrogance

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johnmusacha
netzach wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:

You gotta admit that post by "Fuoaded" was hilarious!  Good post!  GP.

What post ! :-)

Yeah I guess that "Fuoaded" guy got banned recently.  That's a shame, he was pretty hilarious.

TheGrobe
Ziryab wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

Ziryab, lowering of what standards? Near as I can tell, for online chess, "gg" is the de-facto standard.

I played a good game, once, on this site. Of course, with a mere 5000 blitz games under my belt,* my experience is limited.



*That's 5091 on this site. My online blitz total on all sites is closer to 60,000.

Seems kind of silly to complain about the poor quality of something yet continue to consume so much of it.

Ziryab
TheGrobe wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

Ziryab, lowering of what standards? Near as I can tell, for online chess, "gg" is the de-facto standard.

I played a good game, once, on this site. Of course, with a mere 5000 blitz games under my belt,* my experience is limited.



*That's 5091 on this site. My online blitz total on all sites is closer to 60,000.

Seems kind of silly to complain about the poor quality of something yet continue to consume so much of it.

I accept blitz for what it is: smoke and mirrors. See http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2008/12/utter-chaos.html and Robert Desjarlais' comments upon the same in Counterplay: An Anthropologist at the Chessboard (2011).

That's why, IMHO, the term gg should be RARE in online blitz. That it is COMMON reveals an absence of quality standards, unless gg is an abbreviation for "gotta go", or offered before the end of the game as a way of saying, "you need to resign." The latter is a violation of several rules, and shows exceedingly poor manners. 

TheGrobe

Who's standards?  I think you're in the minority here, so it seems to me that what you think should be the standard simply isn't.  Perhaps you wish the standard were different, but that's not the same thing as an absence of a standard.

Fact is, it's ultimately a convention and is entirely optional.  Don't like it?  Don't say it.  It's really pretty simple and doesn't necessarily have to result in the attempt at imposing you're subjective view of what a "quality standard" is on the rest of a community that's perfectly happy with the convention that's currently in place.

Me, personally, I'm not so literal that I insist on reading "gg" as actually meaning "good game", it's simply a colloquial sign of courtesy, a simple trite salutation for the end of a game just like so many other common greetings and I don't try to read any more into it than just that.

AndyClifton
johnmusacha wrote:
Yeah I guess that "Fuoaded" guy got banned recently.  That's a shame, he was pretty hilarious.

One of the many faces of papazuzu...

netzach

Quality blitz ? That's an interesting idea. Could ban people playing rubbish-moves.

FlowerFlowers

guess fuoaded was too fuoaless for chess dot com

Ziryab
TheGrobe wrote:

Who's standards?  I think you're in the minority here, so it seems to me that what you think should be the standard simply isn't.  Perhaps you wish the standard were different, but that's not the same thing as an absence of a standard.

Fact is, it's ultimately a convention and is entirely optional.  Don't like it?  Don't say it.  It's really pretty simple and doesn't necessarily have to result in the attempt at imposing you're subjective view of what a "quality standard" is on the rest of a community that's perfectly happy with the convention that's currently in place.

Me, personally, I'm not so literal that I insist on reading "gg" as actually meaning "good game", it's simply a colloquial sign of courtesy, a simple trite salutation for the end of a game just like so many other common greetings and I don't try to read any more into it than just that.

Acknowledged. Standards are determined by the status quo and majority rule, not any objective criteria.

I'm happy with my minority view and its relentless pursuit of something above the masses of comfortable mediocrity.

AndyClifton

Unless of course snobbiness is a type of comfortable mediocrity... Smile

TheGrobe
AndyClifton wrote:

Unless of course snobbiness is a type of comfortable mediocrity... 

It may be, but not for the masses it isn't.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

There are those who feel more accepted by the presence and inclusion of "gg", and other sorts of conventions. And there are those who feel that "gg" is a meaningless trifle, bristle at the apparent lack of thought put into it, and feel as though their individuality is being attacked by such conventions.

TheGrobe

lol

wei1800

gg

Metastable

When I type "gg", it's because I loathe my opponent with every fibre of my being. Seething with rage, spite, and arrogant venom, I strike the keyboard with full force, watching the laptop actually deflect under the violence of the blows. One "g". CRASH! Another "g". KAPOW! I see stars in the corners of my vision, my blood pressure spiking from the sheer unbridled emotional overload of my disdain. If only one tenth of one percent of the disrespect I intend my opponent can be conveyed through the limited medium of those two characters, I will rest content, knowing that he now feels shame, fear, and self-loathing for having dared to play me.

FlowerFlowers

Metas ... well played.  gg

Hilarious :)

FlowerFlowers

that's funny Anthony CG

OldChessDog

LOL--brilliant post Metastable. Like the way you fully expose the trite with your melodramatic diatribe.

Ben_Lui

That just about sums it up, Metastable! One question comes to mind though - if the feelings conveyed in your post are typical for a metastable person, how much more extreme must they be for one who is merely stable? And how many keyboards do the unstable among us (rumour has it that there may be a few in the chess comunity ...) get through in a week´s chess?

Further study material: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yONAlBpnn-Q

PS by strange coincidence, the G and F keys are next to each other on the keyboard ... sometimes I write by accident "gfg", which could be misconstrued ... also sometimes, I´m tempted to leave it that way, when I´ve lost due to (a) stupid mistake(s).

Ziryab
Metastable wrote:

When I type "gg", it's because I loathe my opponent with every fibre of my being. Seething with rage, spite, and arrogant venom, I strike the keyboard with full force, watching the laptop actually deflect under the violence of the blows. One "g". CRASH! Another "g". KAPOW! I see stars in the corners of my vision, my blood pressure spiking from the sheer unbridled emotional overload of my disdain. If only one tenth of one percent of the disrespect I intend my opponent can be conveyed through the limited medium of those two characters, I will rest content, knowing that he now feels shame, fear, and self-loathing for having dared to play me.

And that's how you snuff a snob! Holy Smokes, Batman, you've filled the room with corpses.

zborg

Dark Knight Shining?  Coming soon to a theater near you.