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ZapFalcon29

ZapFalcon29

WTP and win if u answer correctly in less than 2 mins without using a chess engine then u are a Genius

Arisktotle

Your missed a defensive move in the solution! Correct is 3. ..Qe2! 4. Bc7! Qf2 5. Bd6! and the remainder as given. It's a famous composition.

Dattan1972

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ZapFalcon29
Arisktotle wrote:

Your missed a defensive move in the solution! Correct is 3. ..Qe2! 4. Bc7! Qf2 5. Bd6! and the remainder as given. It's a famous composition.

ok i'll change it

thanks BTW

ZapFalcon29
Arisktotle wrote:

Your missed a defensive move in the solution! Correct is 3. ..Qe2! 4. Bc7! Qf2 5. Bd6! and the remainder as given. It's a famous composition.

done!

Lord_V-2B

puzzle is very hard, but can i be honest, i solved the first two moves of the puzzle withing less than 10 seconds, and then third move i got wrong ( i played bishop b6 ) but after a retry without hint i got all the rest right happy.png

I am very good at tactics, i am very bad at positional play, can anyone help me to improve my positional play pls sad.png

zone_chess

That's an epic deflection. I didn't get the first move. Seems to me Bd2 works too since black runs out of checks. And then we have Ra3# or g3# - and black needs 2 queen moves to reach b3 so it indefensible, right?

 

[edit: I missed the perpetual with Qb8+ Qb1+, and Rc2 is the only move because zugzwang decides since the queen gets defensively overloaded. Nuts.]

westbrookrussell

Here's a game where Stockfish 15 beat Komodo 25 in style. See if you can find the mate and the idea behind each move.

Mickdonedee
westbrookrussell wrote:

Here's a game where Stockfish 15 beat Komodo 25 in style. See if you can find the mate and the idea behind each move.

When the Black Knight blocks the White Queen I would have taken the Knight straightaway. However, it wouldn't have found mate any sooner than your solution. So, I think your solution is more elegant. The only issue I have with your elegant solution is 6....Bg2. Better I think is Bd1+. I know it's a desperado move but why go out with a whimper with a nothing move like Bg2?

FattedYapper

Me trying every single possible move to get it right... then realising how much I suck at chess😫

westbrookrussell
Mickdonedee wrote:
westbrookrussell wrote:

Here's a game where Stockfish 15 beat Komodo 25 in style. See if you can find the mate and the idea behind each move.

When the Black Knight blocks the White Queen I would have taken the Knight straightaway. However, it wouldn't have found mate any sooner than your solution. So, I think your solution is more elegant. The only issue I have with your elegant solution is 6....Bg2. Better I think is Bd1+. I know it's a desperado move but why go out with a whimper with a nothing move like Bg2?

I think i would've taken the knight as well and with the addition of a move like Bd1+, i think it would've been much more acceptable for Komodo to do. But again, this is a game between two engines. I just watched this happen. I had no control over their moves.

westbrookrussell

Here's a game where black won the game with a precise and great move. Although he was using an engine and got banned for Fair Play, it still is a sight to see and a great mating pattern to find. See if you have what it takes to beat a 2100.

Enzkto9

The solution is Tower C2!! You will simply be surrendering the rook, to divert the queen from the d8 square, and thus, the bishop will be able to give the check. If white takes the rook, black plays, bd8+, the only move is g5, ba5!!, this is a move that is a bit difficult to find, because his plan is long and infallible. First, this move threatens to play Be1, checkmate. then, to block the g2 pawn and at the same time defend the e1 square, black plays de2, and now bc7, threatening to mate g3, and, again, the only move is df2, to block the g-pawn from white and to defend mate on g3, but now white is playing the Bd6 move. This move puts Black in zugswang, that's because, if the queen deviates from the protection of g3, they'll get mate, and then, the only move left is g, and now, be7+, and white will have to surrender the queen and they will take mate. This puzzle was a little difficult for me and I confess that I made several mistakes, but, luckily, I found the solution.

Enzkto9

Rook* not tower

 

Mickdonedee
Enzkto9 wrote:

The solution is Tower C2!! You will simply be surrendering the rook, to divert the queen from the d8 square, and thus, the bishop will be able to give the check. If white takes the rook, black plays, bd8+, the only move is g5, ba5!!, this is a move that is a bit difficult to find, because his plan is long and infallible. First, this move threatens to play Be1, checkmate. then, to block the g2 pawn and at the same time defend the e1 square, black plays de2, and now bc7, threatening to mate g3, and, again, the only move is df2, to block the g-pawn from white and to defend mate on g3, but now white is playing the Bd6 move. This move puts Black in zugswang, that's because, if the queen deviates from the protection of g3, they'll get mate, and then, the only move left is g, and now, be7+, and white will have to surrender the queen and they will take mate. This puzzle was a little difficult for me and I confess that I made several mistakes, but, luckily, I found the solution.

Which post # are you referring to?

Enzkto9

thepuzzle of zap

zalcon

 

magipi
westbrookrussell wrote:

I think i would've taken the knight as well and with the addition of a move like Bd1+, i think it would've been much more acceptable for Komodo to do. But again, this is a game between two engines. I just watched this happen. I had no control over their moves.

The point is that when you give a puzzle to the audience, there has to be only one solution. If two different moves are both mate-in-8, you can't just say that Rh8 is the solution and Qxc7 is incorrect.

Enzkto9

the another line is the black declines the rook. If black puts your queen on the 8 file, i think the move is rook to c5

 

Enzkto9

If Black plays another move that refuses the rook, and that is somewhere in the 8th row, the move is RC5, because you are putting more pressure on the G5 square, and you are threatening BE1 check, and, if White tries to avoid this move taking your queen from the 8th row, simply BD1