Yes I understand that but your personal preferences are not paramount here, so why not act like a Christian and consider other people.
Can you justify why you're not vegan?
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Nov 1, 2019
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Zorro2002 wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
Zorro2002 wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
Zorro2002 wrote:
m_connors wrote:
Zorro2002 wrote:
Just out of curiosity, are you or are you not asking me to justify my premise?
Nope. Just asking for examples. As you said there are some things requiring justification, I was wondering what some of those might be. If you provide a good example, then you have convinced me to reconsider my position. It has nothing to do with me asking you to justify anything. It has everything to do with providing an example that will convert me to your point of view: that some things do, indeed, require justification.
Well it darn well sounds like you are asking me to justify something......hey, there's an example for you, common, ordinary conversation! People are asked to justify themselves and their views in order to protect their reputation.
Charles Manson thought he was doing the right thing. He justified many murders. And im sure he wasnt exactly concerned about his reputation.
And that is why we should try to "justify" ourselves and our actions by keeping them in line with the Word of God.
Just take a look at our society, and see what justifying things has done.
I have a diabetic friend that "justifies" eating things he shouldn't because he can just take his insulin.
He will "justify" over eating at buffets by taking extra cholesterol medicine.
We are talking about two different things, I believe. I'm referring to living by the Bible, and letting that justify you before man, not before God.
I completely agree with you on living by the word of God. And yes i know this is not "allowed" but sorry chess.com. My God is higher than you. So fee free to lock this.
Nov 1, 2019
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#44
Justifying crime cannot be done. Who would ask Mason (example above) to justify himself. There is no possible justification any rational person would accept. He can try to justify his actions any way he wished. Does that make it right? Acceptable? No, no justification required. Wrong is wrong. That is not a good example.
Justifying stupidity cannot be done. I am also a diabetic. I know what I should and should not eat. My only justification to eating improperly is poor diet management. What justification is there for someone driving the wrong way on a highway resulting in the deaths of 10 people? None. Drunk? Asleep? Inattention? Excuses, maybe; justification, no.
But we have drifted way off topic. My lifestyle, anyone's lifestyle, needs no justification. Actions are possibly a different matter. Certain actions (Manson, Hitler etc) cannot be justified. Other actions, as in an officer shooting investigation, may need justification.
Nov 1, 2019
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#45
m_connors wrote:
Justifying crime cannot be done. Who would ask Mason (example above) to justify himself. There is no possible justification any rational person would accept. He can try to justify his actions any way he wished. Does that make it right? Acceptable? No, no justification required. Wrong is wrong. That is not a good example.
Justifying stupidity cannot be done. I am also a diabetic. I know what I should and should not eat. My only justification to eating improperly is poor diet management. What justification is there for someone driving the wrong way on a highway resulting in the deaths of 10 people? None. Drunk? Asleep? Inattention? Excuses, maybe; justification, no.
But we have drifted way off topic. My lifestyle, anyone's lifestyle, needs no justification. Actions are possibly a different matter. Certain actions (Manson, Hitler etc) cannot be justified. Other actions, as in an officer shooting investigation, may need justification.
I know a woman who smoked during her pregnancy. The reason? It kept her body weight down. She justified smoking while pregnant because it would make it easier to lose the post pregnancy weight. No concern for the baby.
There are people that will justify Manson, and Hitler. But obviously just because something can be justified doesnt make it right.
Nov 1, 2019
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#46
Well then your definition/idea of mine are vastly different. Think about the examples you have provided. Are they reasonable? Realistic? In their minds, maybe. But again, there is no real justification.
Why did you throw that man from the bridge to his death? I can justify throwing him from a bridge because by doing so, I saved the lives of 5 mothers and their 5 children. The alternative was to do nothing and allow 10 people to die? Is that a right decision? The man and his family may not think so. The families of the mothers and children would likely say yes. This is a take on a very famous philosopical question.
Nov 1, 2019
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m_connors wrote:
Well then your definition/idea of mine are vastly different. Think about the examples you have provided. Are they reasonable? Realistic? In their minds, maybe. But again, there is no real justification.
Why did you throw that man from the bridge to his death? I can justify throwing him from a bridge because by doing so, I saved the lives of 5 mothers and their 5 children. The alternative was to do nothing and allow 10 people to die? Is that a right decision? The man and his family may not think so. The families of the mothers and children would likely say yes. This is a take on a very famous philosopical question.
You're trying to apply a moral code to justifying things. It doesn't always work that way unfortunately. I have never said i think the things i posted about are justifiable. But to some they are.
Nov 1, 2019
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And Jesus said turn the other cheek. Something I seldom see "Christians" do.
Yes, I can. I like meat. End of explanation
Nov 1, 2019
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m_connors wrote:
And Jesus said turn the other cheek. Something I seldom see "Christians" do.
We all recruit from the same gene pool.
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yup self centered "Christians", a paradox indeed. Unfollowing.
IMBacon wrote:
congrandolor wrote:
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Not on a Friday at 4
Ok, then I can say Trump is a moron without risk
NonSequitur7 wrote:
I thought it would be interesting to ask this in a place like chess.com. Yesterday I went to a lecture by an activist called Earthling Ed; who perhaps you haven't heard of and had the chance to have an hour-long conversation with him after it finished. It inspired me to ask the same questions here.
So, are you vegan, and if not, how can you justify it?
It seems to me a vegan would have more reasons to explain their abnormal eating habits (after all they are really omnivores),than a person who eats both meat and vegetables...Neither one needs to" justify"their eating habits. Justify is a word activists use on their trivial protests....Is there anything more aggravating than a trivial activist
you guys know the rules , no religious discussion in main forums, you wanna get the OP's thread locked down?