Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

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TenGolf-TPOT wrote:
noodles2112 wrote:

one does not need to attribute the sunset/sunrise to a spinning wobbling accelerating & decelerating flying globular rock - Lost in Space -----------------

I know there are many things wrong with what you just said, I just can't say what

TenGolf hi.
noodles trying to deter all mention of the earth's orbit and axial spin and decide what everybody 'needs'. Typical behaviour from him. For years and years.
He has been blocked in the past by more than one opening poster of forums - preventing him from hijacking whatever forum that way.

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i wanna hijax a thread some day. im just kinda scared to.

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Randomly Random Randomized

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...are u feeling randy ? lol !

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playerafar - heliocentric theory -

earth spins 1047 mph at equator all the way down to zero mph at the axis points - wobbling at around 23.4 degree "tilt" -

earth accelerates & decelerates around the sun at some 67,000 mph

the earth/sun/solar system zooms around a galaxy some 500,000mph

the galaxy blasts around a universe between 300,000mph - 1.34 million mph -

the universe itself expands via big bang some 186,000 miles per second -

sound about right !?happy.png

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The universe (spacetime) exceeds the speed of light.

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so they/some say BISHOP wink.png!

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Coach_Ali wrote:

Randomly Random Randomized

noodles I didn't read your posts just now.
Coach Ali and everyone else:
In between totally random and very deliberately caused -
there's a vast middle ground.
Its called 'physical consequence and other consequences'.
Causes produce effects. Also called 'causality'.
Cause and effect. They go together.

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Depends
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Even Fischer Random is not Random

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I actually use random numbers every day.

I carry around a 12 sided dice on my person, all the time.

One example of a use of random numbers is I'll read aloud 1 out of 10 pages in a book I'm reading. To practice my speaking.

(I learned that from a singer. She reads books aloud and records herself to see how well she delivers the line, like an actress).

Or in a gym, underhand grip, overhand grip, hammer grip.

Etc . . .

The random function in Excel (I learned this way back in BASIC on a TRS-80) generates a random number from 0 to 1 in decimal.

"Experts" call it quasi-random.

I take that fraction and multiply it by 10,000 and then subtract it down to a set I'm picking from. That is called modulus.

With the additional modulus operation, it is random enough.

The logic comes from watching a roulette wheel spin around, and the ball landing on a slot, in a real casino.

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cell C1

=RAND()


cell D1

=INT(C1*10000)

I2 is a set


=MOD($D$1,$I$2)


I learned the Integer and Random function back in the BASIC days on a TRS-80.

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Coach_Ali wrote:

Even Fischer Random is not Random

The initial position can be. You could pick it using RDRAND, seeded from a source of true randomness (thermal noise) on an Intel or AMD processor.

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Randomness comes as easy as breathing to people who play Dungeons & Dragons.

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long_quach wrote:

Randomness comes as easy as breathing to people who play Dungeons & Dragons.

And computer programmers.

Back in the day, you need a way to make computer characters move in a random way, a life-like way, in a video game.

Or else, the player can tune into the patterns of the game and beat the game easily.

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https://pickerwheel.com/tools/random-number-generator/

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Depends

uhh plz put urs on ? ...unless u like happy accidents

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I got three sevens from the first four spins! What are the odds of that?!

Seriously, with such meaningless flukes it is always worth trying to think "what set of results would I consider as fluky?" Clearly all those with three identical numbers. And those with four, even more so. Probably all sequences as well. Not sure about pairs of pairs. This is beginning to sound like an analogy of poker hands, where trips is better than two pairs, for good reason (it's rarer) but they do happen.