But the earth is not flat. It's been proven thousands if times both physically and mathematically, and even GOD can't dispute mathematics. I still don't get the connection to religion.
Earth is flat. Prove me wrong.
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The problem is when people present you with counter arguments, instead of considering them like a normal person, you automatically discredit it as fake, say things like NASA is the work of the devil, spaceX tried to make an illusion of a curve, science is a cult..etc. That's not an argument, that's just being a baby and taking a tantrum that you were wrong. You cannot make an illusion of a curve. A straight line looks straight from any direction! No matter what angle you view a straight line, it will never appear curved. Basic geometry. A 3d spherical/elliptical earth is the only stable planetary shape for a planet to even form. I know the only thing you are thinking is: GOD GOD GOD, but even God cannot change mathematical concepts.
EndgameStudier wrote:
Yeah, I'm an agnostic btw. My belief in God doesn't mean he exists. It could just be a genetic deformity or mental illness. We don't know what exists, end of story.
"...We don't know what exists, end of story." - Endgame Studier
Yet you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that what you're standing on is a globe? If you can't see the contractions in your own statements, how can you claim to see some in other people's statements? You're the one that might need a doctor if you can't see the irony in what you're saying... ^^'
1. We've seen the earth from space
2. On a flat earth, ships would not disappear beyond the horizon
3. Magellan sailed to Asia by sailing west, which was east of his starting point.,proving he went in a complete circle around the globe
4. And you can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that a superman created the universe??
5. It is night on one side of the earth and day on the other. Not possible if flat.
6. A really long bridge seems to bend downward as it goes further out, despite being flat. Following the curvature of earth.
7. When a plane is flown for 50 hours at 600mph, it doesn't veer off the edge of the earth into space.
8. The space station travels in one direction, yet emerges from the opposite direction, indicating a circle
9. Gravity will pull matter into a minimal surface area configuration...a sphere, not a near flat cyclinde, because it acts equally in all directions.
So yes, the earth is a 3d ellipse, beyond any shadow of doubt. Science and cameras have proven it, and no one can deny it. You can't fake curvature if something is truly flat. A 2d plane does not look curved no matter what angle you view it from. It will either look like a line, a square, a rhombus, or straight slanted line. It will never look curved.
Batman91939 wrote:
EndgameStudier wrote:
Yeah, I'm an agnostic btw. My belief in God doesn't mean he exists. It could just be a genetic deformity or mental illness. We don't know what exists, end of story.
"...We don't know what exists, end of story." - Endgame Studier
Yet you know beyond ashadow of a doubt that what you're standing on is a globe? If you can't see the contractions in your own statements, how can you claim to see some in other people's statements? You're the one that might need a doctor if you can't see the irony in what you're saying... ^^'
Whether God exists or not has nothing to do with the shape of the earth. There is no proof God exists, nor proof that he doesn't. Just because you can't prove non-existent doesn't mean it exists. There IS mathematical and visual and experimental proof earth is round. It's the only possible stable planetary shape, we've documented the curvature from space, and people have sailed around the globe in a complete circle by heading in a straight line.
EndgameStudier wrote:
The problem is when people present you with counter arguments, instead of considering them like a normal person, you automatically discredit it as fake, say things like NASA is the work of the devil, spaceX tried to make an illusion of a curve, science is a cult..etc. That's not an argument, that's just being a baby and taking a tantrum that you were wrong. You cannot make an illusion of a curve. A straight line looks straight from any direction! No matter what angle you view a straight line, it will never appear curved. Basic geometry. A 3d spherical/elliptical earth is the only stable planetary shape for a planet to even form. I know the only thing you are thinking is: GOD GOD GOD, but even God cannot change mathematical concepts.
Provide just one photograph of the earth from space that isn't a proven fake cgi or a composite, then maybe we can actually get a conversation going here. Otherwise, you've got nothing supporting your globe theory than your willingness to beLIEve what you've been told your entire life.
#1) Have you gone to space personally? (probably not)
#2) Math is a universal language used to express CONcepts. Just like how it's possible to express falsities in the english language such as "All dogs are blue", for instance, the same is true for mathematics. The value of mathematical equations is in the hope that they express something that is objectively real. If they don't, then all they become is complicated lies that very few people can even grasp. Equations can be seductive (I know), but they will ALWAYS and I mean AlWAYS take a backseat to experiments. (Experiments > Equations all day everyday)
#3) You're young and have much to learn about the world. Don't seek to beLIEve in things instead of getting to KNOW things (That would be my advice to you)! ^^
P.S: After all of this you'll still probably just shrugg everything off that I just said with "He's crazy" or "You need a doctor", but let me tell you something, that feeling is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction that's been placed into everyone of us to blind us from the truth. They want you to run away from what's real and embrace/crave the lies that they've been feeding us since birth. They don't want people that are empowered with truth because that takes away their control over us. "It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it". Give this some thought and maybe, just maybe there's hope for you after all...
God bless
You are just another one of these religious fanatics who ignorant, blind, condescending, and value nothing in life but something that might not even exist. Pathetic. Whether earth is flat or not, I don't actually care, it dlesmt affect my life. So there's no point in arguing about it. Science is truth, religion is BS. I've taken medicine, without praying, and it relieves my pain. It works. Science works, not a BULLSHIT book.
Your PS: Your right, i am just shrugging off your BULLSHIT fairy tale nonsense, as most people will.
Prove you are a real person, prove the bible is true, prove God wrote the bible, show me one picture of flat earth that hasn't been debunked fake. Show me the edge of the earth show me a picture of God, prove God created the universe. Prove you aren't making all this nonsense up to test my individuality/ trust in logic? Prove God didn't tel,t you to write these posts to see if I give into your nonsense and test my strength. Prove you aren't the devil. Prove your mom didn't write this post. Prove we are living on a planet. Prove gravity is real.
And stop with this "there's hope for me". What are you even referring to? Being saved from hell? Like it's a sin to think earth is round. I'm fine, and dont need to be saved from anything but this lunacy. Hell doesn't exist. I'm not I any danger from your stupid demons. The devil doesn't exist and it seems all these demons can do is growl and scratch you. Weak asses. Why don't they throw me 1000 feet in the air. I CALL UPON ANY DEMONS READING THIS TO LAUNCH ME INTO THE AIR NOW!!! Let's see if it happens. They betta, or they don't exist.
Batman91939 wrote:
EndgameStudier wrote:
The problem is when people present you with counter arguments, instead of considering them like a normal person, you automatically discredit it as fake, say things like NASA is the work of the devil, spaceX tried to make an illusion of a curve, science is a cult..etc. That's not an argument, that's just being a baby and taking a tantrum that you were wrong. You cannot make an illusion of a curve. A straight line looks straight from any direction! No matter what angle you view a straight line, it will never appear curved. Basic geometry. A 3d spherical/elliptical earth is the only stable planetary shape for a planet to even form. I know the only thing you are thinking is: GOD GOD GOD, but even God cannot change mathematical concepts.
Provide just one photograph of the earth from space that isn't a proven fake cgi or a composite, then maybe we can actually get a conversation going here. Otherwise, you've got nothing supporting your globe theory than your willingness to beLIEve what you've been told your entire life.
#1) Have you gone to space personally? (probably not)
#2) Math is a universal language used to express CONcepts. Just like how it's possible to express falsities in the english language such as "All dogs are blue", for instance, the same is true for mathematics. The value of mathematical equations is in the hope that they express something that is objectively real. If they don't, then all they become is complicated lies that very few people can even grasp. Equations can be seductive (I know), but they will ALWAYS and I mean AlWAYS take a backseat to experiments. (Experiments > Equations all day everyday)
#3) You're young and have much to learn about the world. Don't seek to beLIEve in things instead of getting to KNOW things (That would be my advice to you)! ^^
P.S: After all of this you'll still probably just shrugg everything off that I just said with "He's crazy" or "You need a doctor", but let me tell you something, that feeling is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction that's been placed into everyone of us to blind us from the truth. They want you to run away from what's real and embrace/crave the lies that they've been feeding us since birth. They don't want people that are empowered with truth because that takes away their control over us. "It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it". Give this some thought and maybe, just maybe there's hope for you after all...
God bless
Show me a straight line, then rotate the camera until the line appears like an arch. Try it.
EndgameStudier wrote:
1. We've seen the earth from space.
Well not you and we're all still waiting for a non fake non cgi photograph of earth from space.
2. On a flat earth, ships would not disappear beyond the horizon.
Yes they would, it's call perspective. Your eyesight isn't infinite and the ship would eventually be so far away that it would disappear from your circle of sight but if you pulled out a zoom camera it would come back into view. You can't go over the curvature twice, can you now?
3. Magellan sailed to Asia by sailing west, which was east of his starting point.,proving he went in a complete circle around the globe
In your own words "a complete CIRCLE". A circle is NOT a sphere, so it proves nothing.
4. And you can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that a superman created the universe??
Can you prove beyond a shadow of doubt that a meaningless/godless explosion created all of the complex life forms and matter that we see today? God makes more sense than a meaningless explosion. Either way, the debate isn't about God but about the shape of the earth. Don't change the subject.
5. It is night on one side of the earth and day on the other. Not possible if flat.
Yes it is, it's call perspective. The sun is small and goes around us.
6. A really long bridge seems to bend downward as it goes further out, despite being flat. Following the curvature of earth.
They made a long suspended bridge that are known to curve under their own weight. 99% of all bridges don't take the suppossed "curve of the earth" into account when they're being built. Neither do railroad tracks, highrise buildings or even airports.
7. When a plane is flown for 50 hours at 600mph, it doesn't veer off the edge of the earth into space.
Please provide a link to where you saw something like that happen because that sounds like total B.S. to me. 50 hours at 600mph is insane to say the least.
8. The space station travels in one direction, yet emerges from the opposite direction, indicating a circle
And, of course, you've got firsthand proof of this? Right?
9. Gravity will pull matter into a minimal surface area configuration...a sphere, not a near flat cyclinde, because it acts equally in all directions.
Density and Buoyancy already perfectly explain why objects fall to the ground while others rise. Gravity is nothing more than another seductive equation that has never been proven (dispite what you've been told) with any real world experiments. It's only purpose for existing is to support the globe lie and it's pretty much it...
EndgameStudier wrote:
Batman91939 wrote:
EndgameStudier wrote:
The problem is when people present you with counter arguments, instead of considering them like a normal person, you automatically discredit it as fake, say things like NASA is the work of the devil, spaceX tried to make an illusion of a curve, science is a cult..etc. That's not an argument, that's just being a baby and taking a tantrum that you were wrong. You cannot make an illusion of a curve. A straight line looks straight from any direction! No matter what angle you view a straight line, it will never appear curved. Basic geometry. A 3d spherical/elliptical earth is the only stable planetary shape for a planet to even form. I know the only thing you are thinking is: GOD GOD GOD, but even God cannot change mathematical concepts.
Provide just one photograph of the earth from space that isn't a proven fake cgi or a composite, then maybe we can actually get a conversation going here. Otherwise, you've got nothing supporting your globe theory than your willingness to beLIEve what you've been told your entire life.
#1) Have you gone to space personally? (probably not)
#2) Math is a universal language used to express CONcepts. Just like how it's possible to express falsities in the english language such as "All dogs are blue", for instance, the same is true for mathematics. The value of mathematical equations is in the hope that they express something that is objectively real. If they don't, then all they become is complicated lies that very few people can even grasp. Equations can be seductive (I know), but they will ALWAYS and I mean AlWAYS take a backseat to experiments. (Experiments > Equations all day everyday)
#3) You're young and have much to learn about the world. Don't seek to beLIEve in things instead of getting to KNOW things (That would be my advice to you)! ^^
P.S: After all of this you'll still probably just shrugg everything off that I just said with "He's crazy" or "You need a doctor", but let me tell you something, that feeling is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction that's been placed into everyone of us to blind us from the truth. They want you to run away from what's real and embrace/crave the lies that they've been feeding us since birth. They don't want people that are empowered with truth because that takes away their control over us. "It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it". Give this some thought and maybe, just maybe there's hope for you after all...
God bless
Show me a straight line, then rotate the camera until the line appears like an arch. Try it.
With a fisheye lens camera? Those cameras will curve anything and will even make the horizon look concave, which would make the earth the opposite of a globe. I don't think you would agree with such findings...
1. Show me a flat earth picture that hasn't been debunked
2. The ship would appear smaller, but it woudnt dip down. It wouldn't suddenly drop down and disappear
3.he went in the opposite direction of Asia and hit asia.
4. And what explosion created God? A random explosion made a superman that can create another explosion and can see the future, read thoughts. If you say God always existed, I can say the universe always existed
5. The sun wouldn't disappear if the earth was flat, it wouldn't be blocked by anything
6.no, that's not how it works. What about power cables over a lake, they are on the surface and never bend downwards, yet they appear to get lower and lower, eventually disappearing from view.
7. Any commercial flight!! People fly from new York to a ustralia and it takes 24 hours and the planes speed is 500-600mph, and if the earth was flat, the distance to the edge would be only 13000 miles, so the plane would be past the edgeby then, but it doesnt.d
8. Telescope footage and live footage. Look it up
9. And why does any object fall, instated of simp,y floating there? What does density have to do with it? You drop a feather and a bowling ball on the moon, they both fall at the same e speed. So your saying gravity is fake also?
@ 1238, thank you, that was the 1st valid argument you've made today. I will do research and concede to your point if it's true.
EndgameStudier wrote:
You are just another one of these religious fanatics who ignorant, blind, condescending, and value nothing in life but something that might not even exist. Pathetic. Whether earth is flat or not, I don't actually care, it dlesmt affect my life. So there's no point in arguing about it. Science is truth, religion is BS. I've taken medicine, without praying, and it relieves my pain. It works. Science works, not a BULLSHIT book.
You poor soul. You think that you're thinking for yourself but all that you're doing is repeating what the suppossed "smart" science priests have said. You don't test anything they tell you for yourself but instead accept their word for it. That's the problem. Scientism IS a religion and you've been had...
I'm sorry, but I'm actually on your side and actively trying to wake you up to the lies! You have the right to know truth after all :/
I've taken aspirin and it gets rid of my headaches.
I charge my computer and it turns on
I drop a tennis ball and a bowling ball and they fall at the same speed
I pour salt in water and it DISAPPEARS
I hit the gas pedal in my car and it accelerates.
I lie down at night, dream, and then wake up 8 hours later
In the summer it gets bot, in the winter it gets cold
DON'T YOU TELL ME I HAVEN'T TESTED THESE THINGS. THAT'S THE STUPIDEST ANSWER I'VE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE. YOUR CRYSTAL BALL READING INTO MY LIFE FAILED. GROW UP
Batman91939 wrote:
EndgameStudier wrote:
You are just another one of these religious fanatics who ignorant, blind, condescending, and value nothing in life but something that might not even exist. Pathetic. Whether earth is flat or not, I don't actually care, it dlesmt affect my life. So there's no point in arguing about it. Science is truth, religion is BS. I've taken medicine, without praying, and it relieves my pain. It works. Science works, not a BULLSHIT book.
You poor soul. You think that you're thinking for yourself but all that you're doing is repeating what the suppossed "smart" science priests have said. You don't test anything they tell you for yourself but instead accept their word for it. That's the problem. scientism IS a religion and you've been had...
I'm sorry, but I'm actually on your side and actively trying to wake you up to the lies! You have the right to know truth after all :/
Just quoting you for the record
All you people do is repeat what you read in a book without ever testing it. Poor little thing. You have right to psychological medication if you need it. In fact, one of my goals in neuroscience is to develop a drug that desensitizes the brain to religious beliefs, and yes, they have discovered there's a part of the brain responsible for religion.
Yeah, I'm an agnostic btw. My belief in God doesn't mean he exists. It could just be a genetic deformity or mental illness. We don't know what exists, end of story.