Florida... allegedly have a 16.1% positive rate. That's over 3 million people in Florida alone. Yet the US allegedly has about the same number. So if they are ALL true that means pretty much all US covid cases are in Florida. And none in any other states. At some point you have to stop buying the baloney and think for yourself.
The positivity rate (16.1%) is not the population of Flordia (21.4 million) who have tested positive for COVID-19 (which gives you your 3.4 million number): it's the number of people who test positive out of all the tests that have been done. I don't know how many people in Florida have been tested, but it's certainly not everyone, so that's why it's not 3 million+.
Actually, we can figure out how many tests have been done by looking at the number of confirmed cases (360K) - a positivity rate of 16.1% means that there have been 2.2 million tests, but people could be tested more than once, so we don't know how many people have been tested.
I see Oregon is up to 15,139 confirmed cases with 7 more deaths to bring their total number of deaths to 269: https://www.kptv.com/news/oregon-sees-7-new-covid-19-deaths-as-case-count-climbs-to-15-139/article_ffbebd48-cb8d-11ea-b594-5bf80f2553c0.html That article actually provides details about the individuals: 4 of them were older than 80 with "underlying conditions" and 2 of them were a 47 and a 52 year old who also had "underlying conditions": the Science article I linked to earlier indicates that the disease seems particularly severe on certain types of conditions - would those people have died if they didn't contract COVID-19? We can only tell at a macro level by looking at whether there are more deaths overall than expected, and the studies so far indicate that they certainly are (again, in an article I supplied a link to earlier), which menas that it's much more likely that COVID related deaths are being under-reported rather than over-reported.
The 7th death reported in that article is "a 59-year-old man in Washington County who tested positive on June 23 and died on July 15 at Providence St. Vincent Medical Center. He did not have underlying conditions." Not sure at what point he was hospitalized.
Yes. The alleged number of 16.1% is of those tested. Not everyone. But if there is one thing we have learned more than anything else, it's that there are more cases than what is reported. So the sampling of tests that show 16%, in my opinion, is probably low.
Given that the "experts" now say the positive rate has been about ten times what was reported I think it's pretty likely Florida alone has over 3 million cases. As far as the numbers in Oregon, I think it's much the same pattern. Widespread circulation of the disease, but as you noted, it's almost exclusively those who are old and/or in bad health that dont survive. I guess it's the nature of disease that those who are vulnerable are the most at risk.
In our state, 64 people are currently in ICU who also have covid (or are suspected of having covid). That's up slightly from a couple months ago but ICU use for people who dont have covid is up much more substantially. Probably because of the delayed procedures but also, I'm guessing, the additional violence that happens to be in Portland. Given the sharp increase in cases I guess we can all be thankful that currently only 34 people are on ventilators in our state.
Florida... allegedly have a 16.1% positive rate. That's over 3 million people in Florida alone. Yet the US allegedly has about the same number. So if they are ALL true that means pretty much all US covid cases are in Florida. And none in any other states. At some point you have to stop buying the baloney and think for yourself.
The positivity rate (16.1%) is not the population of Flordia (21.4 million) who have tested positive for COVID-19 (which gives you your 3.4 million number): it's the number of people who test positive out of all the tests that have been done. I don't know how many people in Florida have been tested, but it's certainly not everyone, so that's why it's not 3 million+.
Actually, we can figure out how many tests have been done by looking at the number of confirmed cases (360K) - a positivity rate of 16.1% means that there have been 2.2 million tests, but people could be tested more than once, so we don't know how many people have been tested.
I see Oregon is up to 15,139 confirmed cases with 7 more deaths to bring their total number of deaths to 269: https://www.kptv.com/news/oregon-sees-7-new-covid-19-deaths-as-case-count-climbs-to-15-139/article_ffbebd48-cb8d-11ea-b594-5bf80f2553c0.html That article actually provides details about the individuals: 4 of them were older than 80 with "underlying conditions" and 2 of them were a 47 and a 52 year old who also had "underlying conditions": the Science article I linked to earlier indicates that the disease seems particularly severe on certain types of conditions - would those people have died if they didn't contract COVID-19? We can only tell at a macro level by looking at whether there are more deaths overall than expected, and the studies so far indicate that they certainly are (again, in an article I supplied a link to earlier), which menas that it's much more likely that COVID related deaths are being under-reported rather than over-reported.
The 7th death reported in that article is "a 59-year-old man in Washington County who tested positive on June 23 and died on July 15 at Providence St. Vincent Medical Center. He did not have underlying conditions." Not sure at what point he was hospitalized.