Concept of "Vacation" Time Makes NO SENSE and Needs to be Addressed

I mean when I go on holiday, often

- I'm busy for most of the time. Unless you like beach holidays (I don't) or resort holidays often one is doing something, e.g a city holiday
- pretty sure it also helps people on business trips.
-when I'm away often I don't want to play chess. I sometimes have a no gadget policy on myself during holidays.
-the big one-
Going to another country, or maybe to the countryside or simply doing a lot of travelling so you don't have wifi or 4g access.

As well,
-it also helps people in hospital, sports trips, etc.
-retreats to things like monasteries (not my cup of tea but for some members may be a thing) or to yoga retreats may force people to not have phones.

The only childish one here seems to be yourself, OP.

Anyway personally I see the only real change I would make would be

-limiting premium's auto-vacation so it can't be used in a ridiculously long stretch. Maybe something like 30 days.

And

-adding no-vacation single daily games, although seeing I'd imagine few people would actually use them, the pool would be pretty small and game matching would take maybe weeks and could pair up people with different ratings simply as there aren't enough people playing it.

Then people will start complaining they time out on these games when they physically can't get to a gadget to make the move.

You mean "a few of those" on daily vacation.

I mean I've played around 170 daily games and have had people use vacation about ten times, once was so they could stall. It's petty. Chess.com can't really do much about it.

And guess what? I didn't care. I won the game a month late. I'm not petty enough to let some impatient idiot annoy me.

Are you?

I guess I am "petty' enough by your criterion.

But, that said, this debate has been held a zillion times, and all sensible arguments, including noting the very vexing fact of vacationers spending weeks on live everyday will not be listened to.

One way might be to do what the abusers are doing. If enough folk did it, maybe sufficient howls from members held up for years in becalmed Tournaments might convince the management. 

In an earlier thread on this topic a tear or more ago, there were some who cynically admitted they deliberately wrought the system. 

 

The only silly thing is how much a user is allowed to accumulate.

I think max for a paying user is 90 days (WTF)

 

I understand sometimes life gets in the way, and the vacation feature is a very nice one... but unless I'm having f***ing open heart surgery in a foreign country, in the mountains, 100 miles away from the internet, I'm pretty sure I wont ever need 90 f***ing vacation days.

I'm a revision to one or two of my earlier comments, yeah. Vacation should mean you can not make a move or play a game during that time. At all.

The vacation option needs to be eliminated. My opponent has no move so he hits vacation yet the green light comes on that he’s there. He has no good move so that’s his move. I think if someone agrees to move in one day they need to just plan for that.

My son has an opponent in the same position, this is really annoying.

Please eliminate the vacation button!

I agree that there's a high potential for abuse of the vacation feature, but I don't think it should be eliminated altogether. I've found myself on one or two occasions needing to take advantage of this feature, when financial difficulties prevented me from paying my phone bill and my service was interrupted until I was able to pay. On each occasion, I advised my opponents of the situation, apologized for the delay, and activated my vacation time just before my service was cut off. None of my opponents seemed to mind, and I returned at the earliest possible opportunity. So there are some valid reasons for using vacation time. I've also had opponents delay games unnecessarily when they were clearly lost, an obvious abuse. I don't know what could be done to improve the vacation system; I just hope it won't be eliminated completely.

It won't be eliminated completely.

I did not set up a daily game and invest a couple of days it takes to play one, to give the other guy 3 months to move.

If he's taking forever, start another game.