Here is pure screenshot, to exclude the possibility of finding fault :p [TimeControl "0.75+0"][Variant "FFA"][RuleVariants "DeadKingWalking EnPassant KotH Antichess Diplomacy Prom=1"][StartFen4 "R-0,0,0,0-1,1,1,1-1,1,1,1-0,0,0,0-0-3,yW,yK,yI,X,X,yI,yW,yR,3/5,yP,X,X,yP,5/3,yP,6,yP,3/bR,1,bP,3,X,X,3,gP,1,gW/bW,5,X,X,5,gK/bI,bP,4,X,X,4,gP,gI/X,X,1,X,X,X,2,X,X,X,1,X,X/X,X,1,X,X,X,2,X,X,X,1,X,X/bI,bP,4,X,X,4,gP,gI/bK,5,X,X,5,gW/bW,1,bP,3,X,X,3,gP,1,gR/3,rP,6,rP,3/5,rP,X,X,rP,5/3,rR,rW,rI,X,X,rI,rK,rW,3"] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. Thanks to @MayimChayim, very nice concept of position! Any your suggestions must be based on the tests you made. Also, any your feedback must be based on the games you played. If you don't have any feedback or suggestions, or you have no basis to write it, please refrain from writing anything in this thread. Comments like "weird", "good", "bad", "why not ...", "ok" etc are not allowed. Every comment must have a respectful justification.
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RedFastMath Nov 1, 2020
Name: War For Fortune or War For Throne III Rules: KOTH, 5th rank=K FEN4: R-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0-{'royal''i3','b7','g12','l7')}-3,X,dK,X,X,X,X,dK,X,3/3,X,dK,X,yK,yK,X,dK,X,3/3,yP,X,yK,yK,yK,yK,X,yP,3/X,X,bP,1,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,1,gP,X,X/dK,dK,X,bP,6,gP,X,dK,dK/X,X,bK,bP,6,gP,gK,X,X/X,bK,bK,bP,6,gP,gK,gK,X/X,bK,bK,bP,6,gP,gK,gK,X/X,X,bK,bP,6,gP,gK,X,X/dK,dK,X,bP,6,gP,X,dK,dK/X,X,bP,1,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,1,gP,X,X/3,rP,X,rK,rK,rK,rK,X,rP,3/3,X,dK,X,rK,rK,X,dK,X,3/3,X,dK,X,X,X,X,dK,X,3 Time Control: 1/4 + 0 Screenshot: links: https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204069 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204063 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204009 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5203999 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5203941 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204125 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204149 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204155 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204180 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204186 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204215 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204230 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204242 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5204275 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5210494 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5215022 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5215064 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5221390
R-0,0,0,0-1,1,1,1-1,1,1,1-0,0,0,0-0-3,yW,yK,yI,X,X,yI,yW,yR,3/5,yP,X,X,yP,5/3,yP,2,X,X,2,yP,3/bR,1,bP,3,X,X,3,gP,1,gW/bW,5,X,X,5,gK/bI,bP,4,X,X,4,gP,gI/X,X,X,X,X,X,2,X,X,X,X,X,X/X,X,X,X,X,X,2,X,X,X,X,X,X/bI,bP,4,X,X,4,gP,gI/bK,5,X,X,5,gW/bW,1,bP,3,X,X,3,gP,1,gR/3,rP,2,X,X,2,rP,3/5,rP,X,X,rP,5/3,rR,rW,rI,X,X,rI,rK,rW,3
Name - King and Rook Screenshot:Games : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Rules: King of the hill, 7-check, pawns promote to a Rook on the 4th rank. Time control: 1|1 Delay FEn4: R-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0-{'lives':(7,7,7,7)}-5,yB,yK,yQ,yB,5/5,yP,yP,yP,yP,5/3,X,10/4,X,6,X,2/6,X,X,2,X,3/bB,bP,3,X,dK,dK,X,3,gP,gB/bQ,bP,2,X,dK,dK,dK,dK,X,2,gP,gK/bK,bP,2,X,dK,dK,dK,dK,X,2,gP,gQ/bB,bP,3,X,dK,dK,X,3,gP,gB/3,X,2,X,X,6/2,X,6,X,4/10,X,3/5,rP,rP,rP,rP,5/5,rB,rQ,rK,rB,5
now i have few swap custom broad im sure other will have more so it better like in custom broad there is section for specific custom series like 2 player 3 player etc request you make spread of "swap series" section if apply more then swap custom position Pawn swap so these position i think i made 2 years ago but not uploaded 1st because these is just next level 4pc and i was afraid due to so low people play standard teams it get much lower due to such variant but its anyway happening more now then before like king safety etc so finally decided post it also i been testing back in days those a lot so it finally ready to have some fun its is playable in all mode other then antichess ! most funs mode Team , capture the king team! Solo, and most fun can be in ffa i think! [StartFen4 "R-0,0,0,0-1,1,1,1-1,1,1,1-0,0,0,0-0-3,rR,rN,rB,rK,rQ,rB,rN,rR,3/3,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,3/14/gR,bP,10,gP,bR/gN,bP,10,gP,bN/gB,bP,10,gP,bB/gK,bP,10,gP,bQ/gQ,bP,10,gP,bK/gB,bP,10,gP,bB/gN,bP,10,gP,bN/gR,bP,10,gP,bR/14/3,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,3/3,yR,yN,yB,yQ,yK,yB,yN,yR,3"][Variant "Teams"][CurrentMove "0"] https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5121930 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5147707 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5147778 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5147826 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5147903 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5148010 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5148035 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5148070 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5148086 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5148178 phenix engine vs players gameplays https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5148215 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5148330
#1 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5135233 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5135206 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5135201 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5135178 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5135173 R-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-20,20,20,20-0-{'royal''n10','j1','a5',''),'lives'3,3,3,3),'resigned'null,null,null,true),'zombieImmune'false,false,false,true)}-3,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,3/3,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,3/3,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,3/X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X/gC,2,X,gC,X,X,1,X,gC,X,2,rC/3,X,X,4,X,X,3/3,X,5,X,X,3/3,X,X,5,X,3/3,X,5,X,X,3/yC,2,X,gC,X,1,X,X,gC,X,2,gC/X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X,X/3,X,6,X,3/3,X,6,X,3/3,X,gC,4,bC,X,3 Time Control: 30 sec Green is Rando Bot, cannot be captured. 3 check
Screenshot: Title: NCP or WOF - Clover of battle Some games: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 [Variant: "FFA"] [Rules: "DeadKingWalking, EnPassant, KOTH, CaptureTheKing, 3-check"] [Time control: 2/5, 1/1, 3/2] Even though its not needed Fen4: Just kidding I'm not actually going to put the Fen4
1|10 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5168507-8 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5168533 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5168584 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5168598 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5168639 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5188551 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5188398 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5168726 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5168791-17 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5177332-29 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5177448-14 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5177474 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5188295 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5188434 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5188599 https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=5188656 rules: 12 check, 11= N
Alert: Two 4PC players were allegedly found teaming in 4PC variant, Labyrinth82 FFA. The players name are 1) <username removed - Admin> 2) <username removed - Admin> Archive is the proof where both were found guilty. I hope CGA will take look into it.
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ChesscomTom Oct 29, 2020
 These custom positions are sometimes unbalanced in such a way that the color placement and randomization falls into the hands of fate. Are you feeling lucky? These games are rated only using WoF rating, so you've got pretty much nothing to lose! Come spin the wheel, have fun, and enjoy when both luck and skill is on your side.  The distinction between WoF and other listed variants (NCVs) is simple: Each player has a shot at winning, but that chance may be greater for one player than for another. Variants where the only playable moves lead to a forced win will not be accepted into the WoF tournaments.  Wheel of Fortune Arenas generally run for 24 hours each, starting Monday - Friday at around 00:00 UTC. Occasionally, there may be holiday-themed Wheel of Fortune Arenas.  If you have an idea for a fun WoF game, you may submit it similarly to any other NCV on variants.world, except it is requested that your post be titled "WoF: <name>," instead of "NCV: <name>" (for more information about submitting custom positions, see forum thread here). We're always looking for more submissions!  Have fun, and good luck!
As a CGA team (Custom Games Admins), we've decided that it might be time to have a talk with all of you eager variant creators. We love your enthusiasm, and have been impressed by the creative arrangements you've come up with thus far. However, it seemed necessary to point out a few key things we like to see to approve a custom variant. These are all mostly subjective, and are certainly not requirements per se, but are given to you as guidelines. Just like any guideline, there are exceptions, and breaking one or two with a justifiable reason doesn't mean your variant will be automatically declined, but that said, if we can't see a reasonable justification for why a guideline was ignored, it will be. Variants should be balanced and fair. Quick or forced mating lines after two or three bad moves from any player should not exist. There are some cases where a position is meant to be played by players who already know what they're doing, and will be expected not to blunder in the opening, but in general, custom variants should be able to be learnt on-the-fly. Symmetry is a good place to start, but is not a requirement for this principle. There are plenty of ways to design an asymmetrical position in which play is balanced for all players. No one player should have an easier time attacking or defending than any other player. Having too many capturing or attacking moves available on move #1 should be avoided. In general, a minimal amount of developing moves should need to be made before any player can launch an attack. Positions where players can make attacking moves from the start against one or more opponents tend to lead to a game that's too chaotic. The goal of any position should be clear, and achievable (get the king to the hill, land 3 checks against the player to your left, control the centre, etc.). Typically attacks aren't just one move; there's some initiative built up with a building series of attacking moves. If a player has to deal with this from one or more opponents from the beginning, it makes the goal of the game unclear, and un-achievable. No one wants to lose rating because he was randomly assigned to play as Green, and got attacked three ways before even having the opportunity to make a move. Having a position where two or more players can "gang up" on another in the opening should be avoided. If two or more players can attack another opponent from the beginning, it leads to a position that's farmable by a particularly nasty form of cheater: the pre-arranged teamer. This strategy is clearly forbidden by the rules of play, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The CGA team has a responsibility to actively discourage pre-arranged teaming by rejecting positions that are ready-made for teaming. Attacking ideas shouldn't be served up on a plate, but a position where setting up an attack takes too many preparation moves will be boring. Good custom variants will give players the space they need to mount some threats. If things are too "blocked-off" and a player needs to go the centre to even interact with another player's pieces, the opening won't be exciting enough. Defensive fortifications should be easily achievable. In the same way that there should be a clear avenue of attack for aggressive players, there should be ideal ways to parry those attacks for defensive players. If fortresses are attainable, there should be secondary ways of winning besides giving checkmate. i.e., king-of-the-hill, by point-spread (+40 or oxN are good gamereules which can be used to encourage this). Players' available moves should be plentiful. Custom variants with too few pieces or too many walls will limit where and how players can move, leading to repetitive games. One reason for classic chess' enduring popularity as a board game is that it's so open-ended. After just three moves, there are already over 120 million different games that could have been played. Creators of custom variants should consider how much variation exists in a custom variant. Each piece added to a variant should have a purpose. Positions where pieces exist solely to be traded are dull. Consider why a piece was specifically chosen to occupy a square. What properties does that piece have that can't be served by lower-valued piece? How can that piece be used most effectively from it's given position? These questions should have clear answers. The goal(s) to winning a custom variant game should be reasonably simple. Examples of game-winning ideas include, finding a forced mate, getting your king to the centre, checkmating at least one opponent for a guaranteed first- or second-place finish, etc. If one avenue to victory goes astray, there should be secondary goals that players can achieve. As mentioned above, these are not rules, but rather guidelines. I'm sure there are many custom variants which have already been approved that break one or two of these principles. But in general, these are the aspects of custom variants which make the games fun - and that's what it's all about after all right!? I'm appending an article penned by @GustavKlimtPaints regarding the final step before submitting your newly-created custom variant: TESTING. It's important that after you find a setup you like for a new custom variant, that you verify all of these guidelines hold up. The only way to do so is through extensive gameplay with computers, and players of varying strengths. We get frustrated when looking at a variant where there's an obvious problem that could have been avoided with minor tweaks, and you may be blind to these if you're only playing through the games quickly to meet the ten-game requirement for submission. GustavKlimtPaints wrote: People are interpreting the minimum of 10 game examples for their custom variant positions way too literally and minimally. You really should be doing loads of testing and convincing yourself the position is worth playing and people would have fun with it. Making up a position and posting 10 games with a computer opponent that reflects almost nothing of what the position will look like in play is really just a waste of everyone's time. Play dozens of games and get some people to be interested testers. If you can't get interested testers, well, you probably wouldn't have people wanting to play the position later anyway. The game examples posted should really be QUALITY games of what you think the variant will look like in real games. I'm kind of tired of seeing people flood the forum with their CG positions seemingly without having played any actual games with players and expecting their variants to be listed. Please stop wasting the CGAs' time (thankfully I'm not one of them!) and instead put in some time and effort of your own. A good way to try to find players to play your position is to go into some variant game with spectators and ask around.

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